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#459 of 1005 THAT'S GOOD NEWS mws0520
Apr 27, 2000 (4:43 am)
I'm glad to hear that good news about Mercury, mws0520. I have been a Mercury fan and coupe fan for years. I've had Cougars, T-birds, and Mustangs. It's also good you're listening. And since your listening I would like to greatly encourage you as Cougar brand manager to look into increasing the number of adjustments on the Cougar's tilt steering column. The lack of enough adjustments on the Cougar wheel compromises my ability to get comfortable, and will definitely affect my future purchases.I'm 6ft tall and 170lbs yet I can't get as comfortable as I'd like in the Cougar. It's the single worst feature on the car.I've even heard salesmen complain about it. I noticed the 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse has gone to the more adjustable tilt wheel similar to those on the Sable and other Mercury products. I think improving the tilt column would make the Cougar more comfortable to a wider range of body types, and maybe sell more cars.Also, if a customer is able to be comfortable in a given car,that same customer is more likely to buy the same make or model again. Again, thanks for listening. I hope this information is helpful to you.
#460 of 1005 cougar comfort / MWS
Apr 27, 2000 (1:50 pm)
The steering wheel for the European Cougars adjusts fore and aft as well as for rake. It'd be nice if Mercury Cougars would at least offer that as an option here in the US. Same thing with climate control, the German Cougars have automatic temp controls I think. I wouldn't care for either of the above, but they should be available to those who would like them.
After reading Car and Driver and Automobile, and listening to all the complaints about the uncomfortable seats, I have a question for this group: how many of you find the seats uncomfortable? I've done quite a bit of long distance driving now, and I honestly don't see how all these road testers find the seats so bad that they imply it totally detracts from the rest of the car.
MWS - Is Mercury aware of all the media's complaining about the seats? What's your take on this? Is Mercury considering changing the seats, or perhaps offering the Recaro's from the 'S' as an option? (I read that the 'S' has Recaros.. don't know if that's true really).
Apr 27, 2000 (2:34 pm)
From my experience, I think it varies from car to car. The car I test drove had good seats- very comfortable. Unfortunately, the car I ordered doesn't have comfortable seats. It feels like they're leaning to the right, and I just can't find a comfortable position in them. Fortunately, I haven't had to take any long trips yet, about 1 hour is the longest. Other than that, and another 30-40 hp I love my cat- it's a great car!
Apr 27, 2000 (2:38 pm)
What I forgot to say was that- I could see people saying that the seats detracted from the car's overall experience if they are similar to mine. It's a minor detail though, and the rest of the car is so great, it's easy to overlook.
#463 of 1005 Seats and whatnot
Apr 27, 2000 (3:08 pm)
I find the seats in my cougar to be very firm and supportive. The longest trip I've taken was three and a half hours with no discomfort at all. I did have aftermarket leather installed when I bought my baby. I don't know if that makes a difference or not.
I feel sorry for all of you that have to leave your cats outside to face the elements, when your home. Thank God I have a garage to park my sweetheart in at night. I don't think I would be able to sleep knowing that she was left outside having to fend for herself.
Apr 27, 2000 (5:04 pm)
I don't think the seats are bad. They're a little hard, but not uncomfortable. The back seats are a different story, but the only thing that is ever in my back seat is my purse. So I really don't care about those. The steering wheel could tilt a little lower. The engine could use more horsepower. It would be nice if the car had jet boosters on the bottom so I could drive vertically. It could have a protective force field around it to protect against birds and maple trees. It could wash itself. It would also be nice if it did the dishes and vacuumed.
#465 of 1005 Seat story
Apr 27, 2000 (5:29 pm)
Back about 7 monthes ago I took my Car in and had them look at my driver seat(lacked padding on the bolster part of the seat). They decided to replace the seat after assuring me that the new one would match 100%. Well, 2 weeks later I brought my Cat back to the dealer to have them replace the seat. To my amazement, when I got the car back the seat did not even match what was in the car originally. I asked why they even put the new seat in when it totally didn't match the rest of the car. They didn't have an answer. They told me that the company Ford outsources the seats from do not make the seat(fabric) that came with my car.. I WAS SHOCKED. They had to take the seat fabric from my old seat and put it on a new frame. Moral: If you need to replace your cloth seats, BE CAREFUL!!!!
Apr 27, 2000 (6:10 pm)
Um, I like my seats just fine.
I'm glad to hear Cougar Fest will be in September, this gives us more time to get CSG products ready.
I need some feedback from you guys. How much would all of you be willing to spend on a quality CSG Polo Shirt, and a CSG T-Shirt? I need a ball park figure so I can start working on both. Please let me know.
Apr 27, 2000 (6:29 pm)
If you want I have a guy who did the ones for NECO
He also made me an embroidered POLO shirt, some who have come to gatherings or have ordered them can tell you what they think.
I'm going to arrange to bring a variety of Products to CougarFest, Jackets, Hats, T's, etc. All being one off's
I'm going to start getting pricing for the next round of purchases.
RE: Seats, I drove 16.5 hours ~1100 Miles and I have no complaints about my Sport Cloth seats.
I did sit on leather at a dealership and found they were remarkably firm... one reason, other than HOT/COLD for not choosing leather.
Apr 27, 2000 (6:42 pm)
Anyone know if heated mirrors come with the Sport package? I thought I read that somewhere, but I could be mistaken. I haven't driven my cat in weather cold enough yet to have noticed.