Last post on Aug 22, 2006 at 1:43 PM
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Toyota Camry Solara, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#5217 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [jimmy57]
Aug 05, 2006 (3:09 pm)
I share your problem with the 4 cylinder and as a matter of fact my Camry has been at the dealer's now for a combined 2 weeks. I have a rental. I refused to keep on driving my car. I have a reference number with 1-800 number as well. The district manager drove my car on Tues and now three people agree there is a problem. They have been in touch w/Toyota manufacturing who told them to try the oxygen sensor (DID NOT WORK). The head of the service dept actually found the same problem in two other cars on the lot. Thing is the rental drives great. So, apparently this is similar to the problem they are having with the 6-cylinder transmission problem. On the 800 number they acknowledge the 6-cylinder problem and state that .5% of the cars have this problem. Apparently not all the 4-cylinders are having this problem. It is terrible to drive and I get mad every time I get in it to drive. I first thought it was me just getting used to 4-c vs. 300 M but then realized it was getting worse instead of better.
I have been told that as of now they do not know how to fix it. I was told last week that "they" are working on a program (software?) that will re-program the car but this program has to be approved by the government first before it can be used.
I want my money back as it seems that this is going to take forever. I am leaving the car in the shop for now and seeing what happens (how long they will let me drive a rental). Now I know though that this problem is being called in by others (there is another post here as well with the same problem).
I live in NC.... Maybe we need to call and let them know that we know now there are others with the same problem?
I had a 1999 300 M with absolutely no problems ever, car totalled in a head on, had to buy a car fast. Chose this Camry because of the good reputation of Toyota and the reasonable price....over a Sonata Hyundai. Now have been told that the Hyundai bought 10-14 Camry's and took them apart and rebuilt them and fashioned Sonata after this (really have been told this)...Maybe I should have bought the Hyundai.
I do not think we should just wait for them. I think we need to be very loud in our frustration. It is not all the 4-cylinders apparently so if we do not make noises it may take forever..... Your thoughts?
#5218 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [jimmy57]
Aug 05, 2006 (3:21 pm)
I would be very interested in what the tech finds and how he diagnoses the problem.
If you check my posts on the "2007 Camry Woes" forum, you will see that I have been dealing with this issue since March of this year and posting since May. Very briefly, my dealer, Copeland of Brockton, MA, requested a Toyota Field Technical Service Engineer to diagnose the problem, which is essentially like yours, and he duplicated the issue and then described it as "normal characteristics" of the vehicle on the service report. The Customer Experience Center (what a name - it is an experience for sure - all bad) just blew me off based on that description.
You need to confirm that the tech is a Toyota FTS Engineer, not just a District Service Manager, and have your car diagnosed with a scan-tool. The tech needs to be looking for and recording the air-fuel ratio when the condition occurs, which will be when you apply increased throttle. If they only ride in or drive the car, they are not doing a detailed analysis of the problem, which means they are just trying to cajole you into accepting the problem. You should be driving, as you know what causes the problem and can tell the tech using the scan tool when he should start recording the pertinent data.
I sincerely hope you will report back to us on the procedure and results. The people who are having this problem need to be kept informed. The 2007 Camry 4-cyl 5AT vehicles afflicted with this problem are UNSAFE, and sooner or later someone is going to be involved in an accident because of this failure to accelerate (hesitation) issue.
#5219 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [lkz]
Aug 05, 2006 (3:43 pm)
And yet another one!!!!
I just posted to "Jimmy57" and found your post when I returned to the forum.
It is very interesting that you stated I have been told that as of now they do not know how to fix it. I was told last week that "they" are working on a program (software?) that will re-program the car but this program has to be approved by the government first before it can be used.
To me, this confirms that the lean condition on throttle application is a major part of the issue, since a (EPA?) re-certification means the engine emissions will change with the application of the fix, which must use a richer mixture when calling for acceleration.
Thanks for your post, and please keep us informed of any updates you might be given.
My dealer, Copeland of Brockton. MA, has been as helpful as they can be, but Toyota is not being up front with this issue at all - but more and more owners are starting to come forward complaining about it. Although not as "in-your-face" as the 6AT C-clip problem, this issue is going to "sting" Toyota. The word is spreading about it and more people are doing some serious thinking about buying a new Camry.
All of us with the hesitation issue should post our dealers name and what is/has been done for us. I'd be willing to compile the list and post it on a regular basis as it grows.
#5220 of 5279 Im glad IM not nuts
Aug 05, 2006 (4:48 pm)
I am sorry all of you are having this problems with ur 2007 camry 4cyls but i am glad that I am not nuts. Everybody is almost describing their car almost to a T like my car acts. Hesitation problem dangerous at times. barely climping up hills. THe cuise control is terrible i dont even use it.But what nobody has answered yet is if their gas mileage has went from good to bad like mine. Mine has lost about 4 to 5 miles per gallon. But nobody else has said anything about theirs so i am just wondering?
#5223 of 5279 Re: Im glad IM not nuts [damon34]
Aug 06, 2006 (6:04 pm)
You're not nuts...Toyota is nuts! I am getting 19 miles to the gallon...sucks!
#5225 of 5279 1995 Toyota Camry Cooling Problem
Aug 06, 2006 (8:27 pm)
Just an update on my coolant problem. I filled the radiator up and the reservoir. After doing so I drove about 2 hours and it went down a little in the reservoir. I topped it off again and checked the radiator again and the radiator was full. It has been a whole day and the car has lost no more coolant. What could have caused the leak stopping, if there ever was one? It lost an entire reservoir and half of what was in the radiator, during this summer. Could it all have just boiled off? Or do I still need to change the water pump, thermostat, and timing belt. The belt was changed at 80,000 miles and it now has 186,000
#5226 of 5279 Re: Camry Turn Signal [pb111]
Aug 06, 2006 (9:07 pm)
Hi, I am having same problem with my 99 Camry. Was the problem turn out to be the Turn Signal Relay or something else? If it was the relay then where did you find it on the car? I looked under the hood in the fuse box and could not find it. Thanks.