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#5192 of 5279 1995 Toyota Camry
Aug 03, 2006 (10:34 pm)
The camry is running ill again. It has 189,000 miles. The other day while driving home from school it died about 3 times. Then it started again and hasnt done it in almost two weeks. My mechanic said no engine codes were thrown and he let it idle for 15 minutes and it never and hasn't happened again. Now today I was driving it was about 98 degrees outside here in atlanta and I look down and my engine temp is almost in red. I turned the a/c off and I watched the car go back to normal almost immediately. Then later I tried the air again and it didnt heat up. I got home and the coolant reservoir was bone dry. I filled it up and about an hour later it was dry again. Still no engine overheating. Whats the deal? Anyone got any ideas? I am thinking maybe a thermostat was stuck closed or maybe the water pump. Lemme know ya'll... and as always HAPPY MOTORING!!!!!
#5193 of 5279 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger!
Aug 04, 2006 (5:19 am)
IF YOU ARE DRIVING A 2007 CAMRY WITH A FOUR CYLINDER, 5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, AND ARE EXPERIENCING SERIOUS HESITATION AND POWER LAG, PARTICULARLY FROM A STANDING START AND/OR AT LOWER SPEEDS, I URGE YOU TO READ THIS POST CAREFULLY, AND TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY BY CALLING TOYOTA AT THEIR TOLL-FREE NUMBER, AND FILE A COMPLAINT.
My wife and I are six-time Toyota owners. Five of the six Toyotas that we have purchased were Camrys, and all but one was brand new. All but one were purchased from the same dealership since 1986. Until now, we have not encountered a single problem with any of them. We recently purchased a gorgeous metallic red 2007 Camry SE (4 cylinder) with a 5-speed automatic, and the hesitation problems we are experiencing have been an extreme nuisance from day one. I believe that this problem is unique to the 2007 Camry, and that the problem may pose a considerable safety hazard. The car, put quite simply, cannot get out of its own way. I only had mine for a week when I realized that the hesitation problems could become dangerous. I took it back to the dealership before I had owned it a week, and the service department said they had not yet heard of any such problems, as the car is an entirely new model in its first year. That seemed reasonable enough, as we were one of the first to buy a 2007 CAMRY SE in our locality. My sales associate and I agreed that the car's computer system may still have been "learning" my driving habits, and that it would resolve the problem over time. But nothing changed over the next two weeks. I recently took it back to my dealership with around 1500 miles on it, after a couple of very frustrating and nerve wracking weeks.
Both my sales associate and the service manager offered to take a ride with me to witness and to assess the problem. I let the service manager do the driving on the first test run, and right away, he noticed both the "two-second lag" in performance shifting from first through third gear. Even though the car is running, it feels as though it just doesn't want to go. He also agreed that this lack of performance was both unacceptable and quite unusual. The car hits second gear, and then...nothing! It doesn't stall, but it falls flat on its face for about two full seconds before it gets up and goes. This is not a car that I would even think of calling a call a "Sports Edition" in its current state. After our little incident with the test ride, my sales associate, the service manager and I decided it would be wise to test drive another brand new Camry with the same engine and transmission for a "second opinion". Guess what??? Same exact problems and worse! We took it up my sister's steep paved driveway (as I did with my own the week before), and as before, the brand new test car could not get up the hill. But this time, it slowed to a crawl going up the drive, (with the pedal depressed to the floor) and then nearly stalled, rolling backwards! The brakes had to be thrown on to keep us from slipping right back down the driveway.
My wife and I believe that our 2007 Camry SE is a potentially dangerous vehicle. By potentially dangerous, I do not mean that the car is dangerous at all times, but that the EXTREME hesitation may present a hazard in traffic where snap decisions are unavoidable, and more aggressive acceleration is needed. If you drove this car just once, you would never dare to pull into traffic in a hurry. The car just dies when you try to accelerate. If you round a hard corner slowly enough for the car shift back into first gear, there will be nearly two seconds of "huh?" before it shifts up to second. If you have someone following close behind you, which you more than likely will, it is quite possible that you will get rear-ended. Rightly so, because no driver would ever anticipate your car slowing down after rounding a corner, or anticipate anything as ridiculous as a vehicle that slows down before it decides to pass a vehicle.
My service manager's hands are tied; there is not yet a fix for this problem. I have to wait until a fix becomes available. For all we know, there may not be one for the life of the car. We were, up until now, a big Toyota Camry family. That all may change real soon, depending on whether or not Toyota recognizes the danger and finds a fix. I called the toll-free number at Toyota and they were very polite and acted quickly to get me a case number. But there is no fix available as of the writing of this post, nor has Toyota acknowledged that this is in fact a problem at all.
THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE, A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU DIFFERENT.
I cannot believe that we may actually have to drive this car in its current state until "X" amount of similar complaints are filed by Camry owners. And even then, will Toyota find a quick fix, a computer re-map, or issue a recall? Will someone get broad-sided in an intersection before we see a fix?
I cannot imagine what winter is going to be like in this car...we live in New Hampshire, where life is a hill, and the winters are brutal to say the least. I'm guessing the hesitation will more than likely cause severe traction problems and possibly loss of control. I'm not talking about a a noisy door panel, a loose body side molding, or a dashboard rattle. This is a serious and dangerous flaw that has been overlooked by Toyota, and I for one, refuse to become a statistic just to get Toyota to find, or NOT find a fix for this horrific problem. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of; a car that can't even make it up a driveway without slowing to a stop and rolling backwards. It is intolerable, and I aim to take the steps necessary to change it before it either drives us out of our minds or gets SOMEONE KILLED.
LET ME END BY SAYING THAT OUR TOYOTA DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN COURTEOUS, HELPFUL, AND RESPONSIVE TO OUR COMPLAINTS THUS FAR. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PROBLEM APPEARS TO BE OUT OF THEIR HANDS UNTIL A FIX IS FOUND, OR A PROBLEM RECOGNIZED BY TOYOTA.
BEFORE A FIX CAN BE FOUND, PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE THEIR PROBLEMS KNOWN.
WE ARE DISAPPOINTED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS NEW VEHICLE, AND APPREHENSIVE EVERY TIME WE GET BEHIND THE WHEEL. IT REALLY FEELS AWFUL GETTING INTO AN ATTRACTIVE, SPORTY CAR LIKE THIS, KNOWING THAT IT JUST DOESN'T PERFORM. IF YOU ARE HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH YOUR 2007 CAMRY, GET TO YOUR DEALER AND CALL TOYOTA NOW, PLEASE!!!!
#5194 of 5279 Re: 1995 Toyota Camry [toyoman1]
Aug 04, 2006 (7:23 am)
Obviously there is leak. The first place to check is the water pump weep hole. If it is leaking, you need a water pump, very common on the Camrys of that age. If you want coolant in your car,, dont completly fill up the reservoir because more coolant gets expeled into there. Check your radiator cap as well. Buy a new one just like it from the Toyota dealer. Open it up and put coolant in until the coolant level is up to the neck of the radiator.
#5195 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [jimmy57]
Aug 04, 2006 (7:29 am)
There is always a fix for anything. The technichian just said there isn't because there isn't anything written on paper talking about it. If the engine is actually sputering itself, it is probably a problem in the engine and or its components. To me, it sound like the two second lag is a tranny problem. My best bets are on the shift solenoids for the particular gears. The ECM could not be working them properly or they themselves could be bad. Also, the valve body may be bad. Give the technichian these ideas. Anything can be fixed, but It may be hard to get parts. GOOD LUCK.
#5196 of 5279 Re: 2005 Camry SE Vibration [irina99]
Aug 04, 2006 (7:45 am)
I have the same vibrating problems when the air-con is On when the car is stop(Engage to Drive position). Toyota Service tester taught that it was the Engine mounting crack and the Air-con Compressor that caused the problems. After waited for 6 weeks, both spare parts came and just got it replaced free of charge (under warranty) but the vibration still exist especially in the stop position. The last comments from the tester is "this is normal". I wonder whether is the main electronic control unit malfuntional for the idling module or something else? Please advised if you have this problems fixed. Thanks
#5197 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [penizzle]
Aug 04, 2006 (7:46 am)
Thanks for your reply. My dealer is working very closely with me on this issue. I am very impressed with their response thus far. I hope and pray that a fix becomes available. I really enjoy owning Toyotas, and would like to continue to do so.
#5199 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [jimmy57]
Aug 04, 2006 (8:42 am)
personally, i don't know if this will help at all - so take it merely as an option to discuss with this responsive dealership if they try new solenoids and new trans valve body, reflash or re-initialize your ecm, maybe even replace your transmission...
ask them to replace your throttle body actuator and position sensor, and also (probably first) your accelerator pedal assembly (mechanicals and sensor).
perhaps you should contact the NHTSA and file a report with them. on the other hand, you seem to suggest the dealership is working the problem aggressively to address your concerns.
#5200 of 5279 Re: 2007 Toyota Camry SE Hesitation...Danger! [jimmy57]
Aug 04, 2006 (12:24 pm)
I was just wondering where are you from I am from kansas. But you explained my problems right down to a T. And i call toyota about 2 almost 3 months ago and got the same story, never heard of this problem. And i am glad ur dealership is working with you and ur rep. But my dealership said there wasnt anything they could do about it, and the region toyota rep just made me mad by saying there wasnt anything wrong with the car and it drove like a camry and I offered for him to test drive my car for a week and he wouldnt do it. U drove another camry that was worse than yours and my experience of driving two other camrys they didnt do it at all. My questions to you is. Does your car hesitate in the mornings when it is cooler? And does it hesitate all the time? And does it hesitate more when it is hot? Also try this if you havent already Unhook ur negative battery cable and turn on ur headlights to let the battery drain, and see if it keeps it from hesitating for a couple days. Just curious. I have done that with my twice, first time it worked for about week or so and then the second time maybe a couple of days. To be honest with you I just about gave up untill i read your comments in hear. I just actually just go home from looking at new cars. But i am going to make toyota fix this and make it right, so i am going to call up toyota again and complain.
Thank you for the comments on your car again probally kept me from going out there and getting upside down