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#8886 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [rdub7]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:04 pm)
Well, I don't think I would want to buy a used car from you.
Not with 20,000 mile oil changes. Nope!
#8887 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [shipo]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:09 pm)
Well like most folks would agree who do (for the sake of discussion) 3,000 miles OCI's, why do 6 OCI's when 35 OCI's will do ??
#8888 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [rdub7]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:12 pm)
I don't change my oil every 3000 miles. More like 5000.
Let me ask you a question.
If two identical cars were for sale. Same car, same age and same 100,000 miles. Same price, same condition.
Would you rather buy the car that the owner skimped on oil changes and only did them every 20,000 miles or would you buy the car that had 5000 mile oil changes?
#8889 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [isellhondas]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:30 pm)
I have never had any trouble selling used cars and for top dollar. Indeed I ran an 87 TLC 4 speed manual app 250,000 miles (nexus being 15,000 miles OCI's and used it for delivery service in a business and on the weekends took it SKIING.) It had the requirement for valve adjustments every 15,000 miles (what a dog that is) . Bottom line is the dealer did it app 16 times. EVERY time they remarked the camshaft showed/s original tool markings and the engine blocks was totally CLEAN: ZERO SLUDGE issues. In addition, (I know, probably insult to injury) it used nothing but FRAM filters (2 each for 5 dollars at the time) PH8A if interested. I sold it for -44% off what I paid the 12 year mark. I got multiple calls app 1 year later from the buyer (yup I thought ... STALKER). So he left a msg on the machine saying that if/when I wanted to ever sell subsequent used cars, to give him THE first call.
#8890 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [isellhondas]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:20 pm)
Do you want the short or long answer?
#8891 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [rdub7]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:24 pm)
You didn't answer my question but that's O.K.
I guess we all need to do what we feel comfortable with.
#8892 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [isellhondas]
Jan 10, 2011 (1:40 pm)
If you have no preference then yes short answer, depends.
#8893 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [rdub7]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 10, 2011 (3:30 pm)
I wouldn't dare run my car 20K OCI. It's supercharged and I drive the snot out of it. It spends a good deal of time at redline. I just can't take the chance.
#8894 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 10, 2011 (4:27 pm)
For sure super chargers and turbo chargers have their own unique requirements. The 03/09 TDI's are lucky in that a fair amount LESS heat (compared to a gasser turbo charger) hits the turbo. So (in my case) 20,000 to 30,700 miles intervals have been done. It is driven aggressively.
#8895 of 8944 Re: My feelings... [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 10, 2011 (5:08 pm)
I have nothing against extended OCI's, but I agree that the conditions dictate the oil change interval. Especially on a vehicle that is either new or is driven hard, in dusty conditions, etc., I would establish the general oil health before going as high as 20,000 miles. After an engine is broken in, it is generally the oil's TBN that is the first to go, but that varies by oil, so I can't see taking the chance on blissful ignorance.
I'm sure it can be a safe interval, but that doesn't mean it is a safe interval. If that were my operational norm, I would have a couple of UOA reports to support my decision.
Speaking of which, I need to pull an oil sample on my Forester.