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AMSOIL is price competitive by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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"I'm still waiting for someone to tell me if there's any difference between the Pennzoil EDGE and the Quaker Horsepower 10W-30 full synthetics." And you'll continue to wait because there are no such products.
 
"I definitely won't be using Amsoil because it's way over-priced uncompetitive despite all the money they save by not advertising."
This data shows AMSOILl is competitively priced with lesser oils, and the cost per mile is less with AMSOIL. http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf?zo=1181889 . This is why commercial fleets use AMSOIL.
 
I guess you've missed the AMSOIL commercials on SPEED, NBC and ABC and all the race series sponsorships they have. Their money goes into purchasing the best base oils and additive packages. Not into huge corporate salaries, skyscrapers, stock funds, etc. And that money stays in the good ol' USA and Canada.
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Re: [imidazol97] by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 08, 2009 5:19 pm)

"Can you prove those statements?"
 
You can prove it to yourself.
 
Have you ever seen a written document from BMW stating AMSOIL has caused an oil failure or voided a warranty, or not to use AMSOIL? Call BMW and ask them.
 
Check the BBB website and you will see no warranty issues for AMSOIL, INC., Superior, Wisconsin. AMSOIL sells millions of oil changes a year.
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Re: [shipo] by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 5:22 pm)

Pay BMW? Yep. Just ask them.
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Re: [timvipond] by imidazol97
Nov 08, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 5:38 pm)

>AMSOIL has shown for 37 years it works great in BMW's with no oil failures and no voided warranties.
 
>"Can you prove those statements?"
 
>Have you ever seen a written document from BMW stating AMSOIL has caused an oil failure or voided a warranty, or not to use AMSOIL? Call BMW and ask them.
 
That's not proving it. You're begging the question trying to have me prove something didn't happen instead of your proving what you claimed.
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Re: [imidazol97] by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 08, 2009 5:57 pm)

"That's not proving it. You're begging the question trying to have me prove something didn't happen instead of your proving what you claimed."
 
Sure it is. If BMW says AMSOIL has never failed in their engines or voided a warranty, what more do you want? Don't you think if AMSOIL voided a warranty, someone, somewhere would have proof?
 
Did you check the BBB website for any warranty issues?
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Re: [timvipond] by imidazol97
Nov 08, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 6:03 pm)

"AMSOIL has shown for 37 years it works great in BMW's with no oil failures and no voided warranties." was your statement.
 
You need to prove that is the case. Do you have the statement from BMW saying amsoil has never failed in their engines nor been responsible for a voided warranty due to its use?
 
I'm waiting for a statement from BMW to that point.
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Re: AMSOIL has never voided warranty by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 08, 2009 6:08 pm)

"AMSOIL has shown for 37 years it works great in BMW's with no oil failures and no voided warranties." was your statement.
  
You need to prove that is the case. Do you have the statement from BMW saying amsoil has never failed in their engines nor been responsible for a voided warranty due to its use?
  
I'm waiting for a statement from BMW to that point.
 
Just ask BMW if AMSOIL has ever voided a warranty. Pretty simple. You should ask them yourself, since you won't believe me.
 
Did you check the BBB for any AMSOIL warranty issues? How come you won't answer that? No warranty issues are listed.
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Re: AMSOIL has never voided warranty [timvipond] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 7:05 pm)

Gentlemen, this is getting a bit tedious and we aren't getting to any productive information. These types of circular arguments only drive new users off the topic, further assuring that the circular argument will become even more insular.
 
So, may we please move on so that I don't have to begin removing posts? No one likes to write in disappearing ink. It's a waste of your good time and mine.
 
Mr Shiftright
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PS: Or, if the community feels this topic is exhausted, I can retire it for a while. It's over 8,000 posts, quite an accomplishment.
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More evidence AMSOIL has never voided warranty [Mr_Shiftright] by timvipond
Nov 08, 2009 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 7:31 pm)

Here is what Lubes'n'Greases has written about AMSOIL's warranty and lubrication record:http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/march_lng_03_auto_pdf.pdf
 
"Amsoil, which claims to be the world’s largest
independent marketer of synthetic engine oil, stakes its
reputation on longer drain intervals (up to 35,000 miles)
and backs it up with a full replacement engine warranty.
Moreover, it has done so for three decades without a
single proven case of oil-related failure in an engine
covered by its warranty. Claims against the warranty
have been made but no engine failure, nor any
excess wear, has been l directly linked or confirmed
to any Amsoil product, the company says."
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Re: More evidence AMSOIL has never voided warranty [timvipond] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 7:40 pm)

I think we're done with this branch of the topic, really....let's move on, please.

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