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8536 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 5:13 am) You keep saying that, but saying it over and over and over again (apparently a favorite tactic of the Scamzoil crowd) will not make it so. If one owns a BMW, an Audi, a VW, a Mercedes-Benz, a Mini-Cooper, a Porsche, certain Hondas (the list goes on), and Amsoil is used, the vehicle manufacturer is within their rights to deny warranty coverage for the engine. "AMSOIL is only marketed in the US and Canada, not world wide like the companies you see on "certified" lists..." Geez, just like a typical Scamzoil salesman, trying to cloud the issue with lies and an oily smoke screen. Of the list of certified oils on the VW/Audi approval list, many-many of those oils small local companies (smaller than Amsoil even) that do not distribute beyond their local geographic region. Those companies stepped up to the plate and had their oils certified, why not Amsoil? My bet is because the Amsoil product is inferior. "...and the consumer laws in other countries do not protect the consumer like those in the US and Canada, so the vehicle manufacturers can more easily coerce those oil companies into paying to be put on their lists." I guessing that you're referring to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act of 1975. Yes? Assuming that you are, under law a manufacturer cannot say, "To maintain warranty coverage on your car you must use only our oil," however, they are well within their rights to say, "Here is a list of approved and certified products that must be used for the maintenance of our vehicles to maintain warranty coverage."
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 7:11 am) ROTFLMAO! Geez you Scamzoil guys kill me. Funny thing, I've spent hours crawling through the UOA reports over on BITOG, and I've never yet seen an Amsoil UOA that showed healthy oil much beyond the fifteen thousand mile mark without significant modification to the car. Even then the UOAs don't look very good much past the twenty thousand mile mark. I'd love to see a UOA from oil that was run for fifty thousand miles, my bet is that it'll show an engine that is well on its way to being junk.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 6:59 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 7:40 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 7:36 am)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 8:00 am) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 7:33 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 8:03 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 8:03 am) http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Owner/SyntheticEngineOils.aspx AMSOIL makes this stuff called "European Synthetic Oil" or something like that, which claims to be approved by BMW, but the BMW site doesn't list it....so I dunno.... 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 8:14 am) What I don't understand is why Amsoil sales folks continue to come here and cloud the issues with half-truths and outright falsehoods, and why they are tolerated. |
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