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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 6:13 am) How does one check up on these claims? How can one compare a regular oil company to this type of MLM company? This approach rather reminds me of politics---you get lots of media but not a great deal of substance. It's hard to figure out what it all means. I'm sure the products are decent--it's just that there is so much cheerleading, hype, and arm-twisting going on, there's too much smoke in the room. Of course, on another level, this is all hair-splitting. In the end, how much difference will it make between modern oil products, to the actual life of your car--presuming of course you do very good maintenance and buy good products?
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| Amsoil meets all vehicle waranties. Their oil has never failed or voided any warranty when used as directed. They are the only oil that is recommended and warranted for up to 50,000 miles up to one year, whichever comes first. They offer 5 API certified oils if that is important to you. I'd like to see other US oil companies back their products like Amsoil, but they don't. | |
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 8:11 am)
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 6:13 am) You keep saying that, but saying it over and over and over again (apparently a favorite tactic of the Scamzoil crowd) will not make it so. If one owns a BMW, an Audi, a VW, a Mercedes-Benz, a Mini-Cooper, a Porsche, certain Hondas (the list goes on), and Amsoil is used, the vehicle manufacturer is within their rights to deny warranty coverage for the engine. "AMSOIL is only marketed in the US and Canada, not world wide like the companies you see on "certified" lists..." Geez, just like a typical Scamzoil salesman, trying to cloud the issue with lies and an oily smoke screen. Of the list of certified oils on the VW/Audi approval list, many-many of those oils small local companies (smaller than Amsoil even) that do not distribute beyond their local geographic region. Those companies stepped up to the plate and had their oils certified, why not Amsoil? My bet is because the Amsoil product is inferior. "...and the consumer laws in other countries do not protect the consumer like those in the US and Canada, so the vehicle manufacturers can more easily coerce those oil companies into paying to be put on their lists." I guessing that you're referring to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act of 1975. Yes? Assuming that you are, under law a manufacturer cannot say, "To maintain warranty coverage on your car you must use only our oil," however, they are well within their rights to say, "Here is a list of approved and certified products that must be used for the maintenance of our vehicles to maintain warranty coverage."
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Replying to: timvipond (Nov 08, 2009 8:11 am) ROTFLMAO! Geez you Scamzoil guys kill me. Funny thing, I've spent hours crawling through the UOA reports over on BITOG, and I've never yet seen an Amsoil UOA that showed healthy oil much beyond the fifteen thousand mile mark without significant modification to the car. Even then the UOAs don't look very good much past the twenty thousand mile mark. I'd love to see a UOA from oil that was run for fifty thousand miles, my bet is that it'll show an engine that is well on its way to being junk.
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 08, 2009 8:36 am)
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