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9,000 to 20,000 OCI's...Shouldn't something like this be a new standard? by ruking1
Dec 02, 2007 (1:46 pm)
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Instead of which hydro cracked product is REALLY synthetic or NOT!?
 
Interesting article
 
..."LongLife Service regimes
The LongLife Service regime is so called because there are no set service intervals and, depending on how you drive your vehicle, and the conditions of use, a service will be required anywhere between 9,000 miles or 12 months (whichever occurs first), up to a maximum of 20,000* miles or 24 months (whichever occurs first)."...
 
http://www.vw.co.uk/assets/Longlife_servicing.pdf
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Re: synthetic oil is more efficient [johnroberts45] by oilanalystinc
Dec 06, 2007 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: johnroberts45 (Sep 11, 1999 6:52 pm)

johnroberts45,
 
With a little more information I can provide you with oil and oil filter recommendations for your Honda. AMSOIL continually outperforms not only petroleum based products but all major synthetic competitors as well. Overall AMSOIL is the best lubrication not only for automotive purposes but in industrial, farm, compressors, and much much more!
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AMSOIL by oilanalystinc
Dec 06, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Most people are ignorant too real facts when it comes to synthetics due to bad information, no information, or the inability to understand information.
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Mobil1 by sandman46
Dec 06, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Why is it that Mobil1 is a more well known synthetic oil then that Amsoil product? An d why do most of the major auto manufacturer's use Mobil1 or recommend it?
Shipo and Ruking maybe y'all can help me here.
 
The Sandman
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Re: synthetic oil is more efficient [oilanalystinc] by shipo
Dec 06, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: oilanalystinc (Dec 06, 2007 4:42 pm)

"AMSOIL continually outperforms not only petroleum based products but all major synthetic competitors as well."
 
Oh geez, here we go again, another Amsoil zealot who's had too much Kool-Aid to drink.
 
Dude, the only entity that says that Amsoil outperforms all of its competition is Amsoil and those who hawk their products. Please, before you start with the usual Amsoil rhetoric, bilge we've heard here on this board time and time again, go over to the BITOG web site and get yourself schooled by browsing through the UOA databases. In there you will see a huge body of evidence that shows that in the real world, Amsoil performs no better than any of the full Synthetic (i.e. Group IV, PAO based) oils currently on the market, and in many cases worse.
 
FWIW, even though Amsoil seems to be a fairly decent product (although very much overprices compared to the competition), due to the deceptive marketing tactics and blatant falsehoods that they use to sway the uninformed, I will not use their products and I will not recommend them to anybody else. The simple truth is that many of us abhor the noise that comes out of the Amsoil camp, and more than anything else, I believe that is what holds them back from becoming a truly successful company.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Mobil1 [sandman46] by ruking1
Dec 06, 2007 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Dec 06, 2007 5:30 pm)

If you put in the search word Amsoil in the (search this discussion-upper right corner) block it will give you upwards of 7300 references which will probably give you information overload. So I can answer (from my point of view ) the ones that stand out to you.
 
I have been hearing some real good things about their EA bypass oil filter product, but bypass oil filter products usually appeal to a very very very limited market/audience. Also this product is VERY pricey (if there is such a word)
 
WalMart's (current) $23 for a Mobil One 5w20 (can be used in your Civic if I remember correctly) 5qt jug/4.60 per qt is a metric I would consider if you are even remotely considering a like Amsoil product. I bought my last two containers in tax free OR. 2 containers should easily last me 20,000 miles x 2 for 40,000 miles. Might need a timing belt and water pump change at that point.
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Oil change and fluid check 2003 Jetta by wjose
Dec 16, 2007 (1:56 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 18, 2007 7:35 am)

My wife owns a 2003 Volkswagon Jetta and it is time for an oil change and fluid check. The car has about 30,000 miles on it and haynes or chilton has not come out with a repair- service manual for it. The car is much different from my own vehicles which I have serviced for years. Other than Volkswagon, where could I get some information and illustrations that would make my job tolerable since I have heard that Volkswagons are a different ballgame than American vehicles. I would greatly appreciate some reference points.
 
Bill
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Re: Oil change and fluid check 2003 Jetta [wjose] by ruking1
Dec 16, 2007 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: wjose (Dec 16, 2007 1:56 am)

You might look/google for a new/used Bentley's CD and/or soft cover shop manual. If you really want to get into it, you can get an again new/used VAG.com, which is the software and hard cabling for laptop hookup.
 
As a fast answer, I would use Mobil One 0w40 and oem, Mann or Mahle oil filters.
 
https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_0W-40.aspx
 
You might also review the technical data updates for the latest recommendations for oil specifications. Rest assured however the Mobil One0w40 meets and exceeds the ..."VW 502.00/505.00/503.01"...specifications in force at the time. The latest specifications are the VW 507.... which (selectively) are backwards compatible.
 
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Re: Oil change and fluid check 2003 Jetta [wjose] by blufz1
Dec 16, 2007 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: wjose (Dec 16, 2007 1:56 am)

Just shop on the phone and the net for special price and/or a coupon and get a deal from your dealer. My Honda dealer charges me $10 + I provide the mobil 1 oil and filter........'course you ain't got no Honda,there.
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Re: Mobil1 0w30 vs. Castrol synthetic 0w30 (German made) [ruking1] by robert1955
Dec 21, 2007 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 13, 2007 8:26 am)

Ok, time to pop back in here I have made the switch to a 0W-20 Group IV product for my 5W-20 spec 07 Sonata. Its only been about 600 miles and 2 tanks of gas but I have noticed between a .5 and 1 mpg gain but its too early to credit the oil for a gain yet. After about 5,000 miles I will have a good dataset to say if the switch from a dino 5W-20 to a Group IV 0W-20 will pay off for me with better economy along with the longer OCI to truely cover the cost increase.
As for the Amsoil zelots the true gains in using the product is the longer OCI the oil is built to support, if you stay with under 5,000 or even 7,500 mile OCI's then the extra cost does not justify its use. If you can run the 25,000 miles for the ASL or even the 35,000 miles of the SSO oils then yes I would say Amsoil "outperforms" the other oils

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