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Re: Mobil1 0w30 vs. Castrol synthetic 0w30 (German made) [smokey75] by ruking1
Nov 13, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: smokey75 (Nov 13, 2007 9:10 am)

Oh GOSH!! YES and NO!! ( *4)
 
The real keys are there statistical correlations!!?? Practically speaking, are the premiums worth the performance?
 
So for example, if PAR, I would convert all 5w30 applications to 0w30 in a heartbeat. Given premium, does the (so called ) performance advantage pencil out?
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Re: Mobil1 0w30 vs. Castrol synthetic 0w30 (German made) [ruking1] by ruking1
Nov 13, 2007 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 13, 2007 9:18 am)

Another example.
 
45,000 miles ago, I decided to go from the oem filled 5w20 conventional oil to 0w20 Mobil One. So I bought a supply of 1 qt bottles at discount. I have been getting between 38-42 mpg. Now I did notice (beginning with the first tankful) an IMMEDIATE jump in the RANGE of mpg (1-3 mpg) Now because of the decision to switch, I have not done an A/B test (but have noticed a distinct difference) let alone an A/B and BACK to A test.
 
I just recently bought some 5 qt containers of 5w20 Mobil One 23 bux and change. My perception is no premium or par to the 0w20. So it will be a no brainer to do the next oil change interval (20,000 miles) to see if there is a performance difference due to the viscosity difference of 0w20 vs 5w20. I swag little to no difference.But if there will be, I would anticipate 1-2 mpg difference.
 
So it is up to YOU (me, in my case) to decide whether the viscosity is worth either the premium or the discount.
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Re: Mobil1 0w30 vs. Castrol synthetic 0w30 (German made) [ruking1] by smokey75
Nov 13, 2007 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 13, 2007 10:01 am)

So it is up to YOU (me, in my case) to decide whether the viscosity is worth either the premium or the discount.
Actually I was just interested if anyone had a preferance between the 2 oils.
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9,000 to 20,000 OCI's...Shouldn't something like this be a new standard? by ruking1
Dec 02, 2007 (1:46 pm)
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Instead of which hydro cracked product is REALLY synthetic or NOT!?
 
Interesting article
 
..."LongLife Service regimes
The LongLife Service regime is so called because there are no set service intervals and, depending on how you drive your vehicle, and the conditions of use, a service will be required anywhere between 9,000 miles or 12 months (whichever occurs first), up to a maximum of 20,000* miles or 24 months (whichever occurs first)."...
 
http://www.vw.co.uk/assets/Longlife_servicing.pdf
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Re: synthetic oil is more efficient [johnroberts45] by oilanalystinc
Dec 06, 2007 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: johnroberts45 (Sep 11, 1999 6:52 pm)

johnroberts45,
 
With a little more information I can provide you with oil and oil filter recommendations for your Honda. AMSOIL continually outperforms not only petroleum based products but all major synthetic competitors as well. Overall AMSOIL is the best lubrication not only for automotive purposes but in industrial, farm, compressors, and much much more!
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AMSOIL by oilanalystinc
Dec 06, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Most people are ignorant too real facts when it comes to synthetics due to bad information, no information, or the inability to understand information.
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Mobil1 by sandman46
Dec 06, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Why is it that Mobil1 is a more well known synthetic oil then that Amsoil product? An d why do most of the major auto manufacturer's use Mobil1 or recommend it?
Shipo and Ruking maybe y'all can help me here.
 
The Sandman
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Re: synthetic oil is more efficient [oilanalystinc] by shipo
Dec 06, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: oilanalystinc (Dec 06, 2007 4:42 pm)

"AMSOIL continually outperforms not only petroleum based products but all major synthetic competitors as well."
 
Oh geez, here we go again, another Amsoil zealot who's had too much Kool-Aid to drink.
 
Dude, the only entity that says that Amsoil outperforms all of its competition is Amsoil and those who hawk their products. Please, before you start with the usual Amsoil rhetoric, bilge we've heard here on this board time and time again, go over to the BITOG web site and get yourself schooled by browsing through the UOA databases. In there you will see a huge body of evidence that shows that in the real world, Amsoil performs no better than any of the full Synthetic (i.e. Group IV, PAO based) oils currently on the market, and in many cases worse.
 
FWIW, even though Amsoil seems to be a fairly decent product (although very much overprices compared to the competition), due to the deceptive marketing tactics and blatant falsehoods that they use to sway the uninformed, I will not use their products and I will not recommend them to anybody else. The simple truth is that many of us abhor the noise that comes out of the Amsoil camp, and more than anything else, I believe that is what holds them back from becoming a truly successful company.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Mobil1 [sandman46] by ruking1
Dec 06, 2007 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Dec 06, 2007 5:30 pm)

If you put in the search word Amsoil in the (search this discussion-upper right corner) block it will give you upwards of 7300 references which will probably give you information overload. So I can answer (from my point of view ) the ones that stand out to you.
 
I have been hearing some real good things about their EA bypass oil filter product, but bypass oil filter products usually appeal to a very very very limited market/audience. Also this product is VERY pricey (if there is such a word)
 
WalMart's (current) $23 for a Mobil One 5w20 (can be used in your Civic if I remember correctly) 5qt jug/4.60 per qt is a metric I would consider if you are even remotely considering a like Amsoil product. I bought my last two containers in tax free OR. 2 containers should easily last me 20,000 miles x 2 for 40,000 miles. Might need a timing belt and water pump change at that point.
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Oil change and fluid check 2003 Jetta by wjose
Dec 16, 2007 (1:56 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 18, 2007 7:35 am)

My wife owns a 2003 Volkswagon Jetta and it is time for an oil change and fluid check. The car has about 30,000 miles on it and haynes or chilton has not come out with a repair- service manual for it. The car is much different from my own vehicles which I have serviced for years. Other than Volkswagon, where could I get some information and illustrations that would make my job tolerable since I have heard that Volkswagons are a different ballgame than American vehicles. I would greatly appreciate some reference points.
 
Bill

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