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#6562 of 6629 Re: 1998 Jetta GLS won't idle [sandiegojoey] by raggz

Dec 19, 2011 (3:33 pm)

Replying to: sandiegojoey (Nov 28, 2009 9:57 am)
Hi
Did you ever find the solution to your problem? Cuz my sons Jetta is doing the exact same thing.

#6563 of 6629 95 Jetta Oil Filter Housing Leak by shopdog97

Jan 05, 2012 (12:42 pm)

OK you Jetta geniuses, hope you can help me with this. My Pastor has a '95 Jetta 2.0. It was given to the family nearly 3 years ago and now his teenage daughter drives it. He put a lot of $$$ in it in 2011, most notable another engine because the timing belt went on his old one and lunched the motor. Since this was done and a few other minor things taken care of, he was telling me yesterday that when his daughter went to go somewhere the other day, the car started spewing oil like crazy. Naturally, she didn't notice it right away(Do teenagers notice ANYTHING? LOL) There was a trail of oil down the street, and then she told him the car shut down. I think is because there MAY be a sensor or switch(Low oil pressure cutoff switch??) that will shut down the engine before it seizes up, yes??
 
Anyway, I was at his home yesterday and had a chance to look at the car. There was no oil on the dipstick when I pulled it out, so he went and found some and put it in. I told him to start the car and oil starts gushing out of the TOP of the filter housing, right where the round part sits on top of the square part. I see that there is a water connection to this square piece, but the oil was definately coming out underneath this round seam. Now is this a faulty gasket issue? I got one from a local parts supplier and it's called the Oil Filter Bracket Gasket. On top of this round piece of the filter housing, there are 2 metric allen screws and I THINK one is further back near where it attaches onto the engine block. The shape of this gasket has me thinking that this belongs where the filter bracket is attached onto the block. If this is true, then I have the wrong part, because the oil is coming out around this rounded part sitting directly on top. Any help any of you can give me on this issue will be deeply appreciated and a very Happy New Year to you all.

#6564 of 6629 Re: 95 Jetta Oil Filter Housing Leak [shopdog97] by bpeebles

Jan 05, 2012 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: shopdog97 (Jan 05, 2012 12:42 pm)
On many VW engines, the oil-filter screws into the "heat-exchanger". This "heat-exchanger" has antifreeze flowing thru it to help cool the oil. (and heat the oil to the same temp as the antifreeze)
 
From your description, it sounds as if the O-ring between the "heat-exchanger" and the engine has started to leak.
 
Personally, any vehicle which was ingored/disregarded to the point of allowing the timingbelt to break may be suspect for additional problems stemming from a ignorant owner.

#6565 of 6629 Re: 95 Jetta Oil Filter Housing Leak [bpeebles] by shopdog97

Jan 06, 2012 (9:47 am)

Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 05, 2012 4:22 pm)
bpeebles, thank you for responding to this problem on my friend's '95 VW Jetta. I had a feeling that this was an O-ring issue and NOT the gasket I got yesterday from the parts store. This gasket HAS to be the one between the block and the filter housing, in back of the sending unit. It makes more sense that there would be a bad O-ring that's causing the oil to gush out right above this heat exchanger. I shall address this when I meet with him tomorrow and see if we can solve this problem. While I do thank you for this info, I must take exception to your use of the term "ignorant owner"! This man is a church pastor and I said he was given the Jetta almost 3 years ago and the car ran well up till the day when the timing belt snapped. The engine had about 150k on it at that time. His wife used it earlier in the day and said she had no problems when she was driving it. When he tried to start it the next morning, it cranked over without starting. He knew his battery was bad, and thinking this might be the problem, put a new one in. When I got to his home and heard the engine turn over, my next move was to pull the distributor cap off and see if the rotor was turning. Of course it was not, and then I knew what had happened. I realize that if the proper timing belt change interval had been followed, perhaps this could have been avoided. Perhaps you might in the future try to use your words more wisely. Things sometimes just happen, and it's not at all due to being an "ignorant owner"!!

#6566 of 6629 Re: 95 Jetta Oil Filter Housing Leak [shopdog97] by revmarket

Jan 06, 2012 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: shopdog97 (Jan 06, 2012 9:47 am)
As a pastor myself the word was used correctly.
It may have had bad feelings behind it but it also may not have had any malice behind it.
 
ignorant
[ig-ner-uhnt]
  Origin
ig·no·rant
 
 [ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3.
uninformed; unaware.
4.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
Origin:
1325–75; Middle English ignora ( u ) nt < Latin ignōrant- (stem of ignōrāns ), present participle of ignōrāre to ignore; see -ant To be uninformed of the timing belt change interval can be considered ignorant of facts. see definition number 2 Sorry to get in the middle of your transaction but as a minister I could not let this go. Blessings.

#6567 of 6629 Re: 95 Jetta Oil Filter Housing Leak [revmarket] by bpeebles

Jan 06, 2012 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: revmarket (Jan 06, 2012 2:43 pm)
Thank you [revmarket] ... I meant EXACTLY what the word ignorant means..... Lacking the knowledge that the Timing belt should have been changed BEFORE it broke. I see no malice in that.
 
That ignorant owner was VERY lucky the TB did not snap whilst driving. The engine would have instantly become suitable for a boat-anchor or a doorstop.
 
Volkswagen engines are so tight that a broken TB can leave some valves open such that the pistons will hit them.... the inside of the engine becomes trashed.
 
In fact, it is possible that engine DOES have some internal damage... was the head pulled off and the pistons/valves inspected. (or use a scope thru the sparkplug holes.)

#6568 of 6629 One last word on my Pastor's Jetta by shopdog97

Jan 08, 2012 (5:47 pm)

It certainly wasn't my intent to get involved in a war of words over seeking help with this '95 Jetta. If I've offended anyone, I stand corrected and offer my humble apologies. At any rate, it may very well be that my repair efforts to correct the oil leak issue above the heat exchanger was moot at best. We started to access the O ring on Saturday morning, removing the oil filter, disconnecting what I believed to be the inlet water hose and then removing the retaining nut from the threaded filter pipe. This action allowed us to remove the heat exchanger and when we did, there was the original O ring in 3 pieces. We put the new O ring on, reversed our procedures, and then filled the oil to the correct level. We also had to add some antifreeze as some leaked out.
 
The bottom line is that I didn't like the way the engine sounded last Wednesday when I first was asked to look at the car and upon my friend starting it then, saw where the leak was. I wondered aloud if the engine wasn't already damaged because practically all the oil was gone then. It didn't sound any better to me on Saturday after the O ring change. The leak was gone, but the engine sounded terrible. We went for a ride because it was low on gas, got some and he took it on the highway near his home and we went for about a 12 mile ride altogether. Then the oil pressure light came on and a tone went off, but the car WAS running and we didn't see a trail of oil anywhere. We stopped, shut the car down and rechecked the oil level and it was fine. There were no leaks of any kind. We started for his home, and were about a mile away and the oil light and tone came back again. I wasn't having a good feeling. Some hours later his daughter was taking her 2 younger brothers out for a treat at an ice cream store. She never made it. She was about 2 miles from her destination when she claimed she thought the car was on FIRE! She managed to get the car off the highway at an off ramp. Lo and behold, the guy behind her confirmed he saw flames coming from underneath the car and he was a fireman/EMT. She got her brothers out of the car quickly, but there was only a lot of smoke and no fire. A local towing service towed the car to their lot, which is only about 2 miles from my home. I went there today to see the car and expected to find evidence of a fire, but that engine compartment was fine. It was when I opened the door that I smelled what I believe to be the odor of an electrical fire, perhaps something melted, I can't be sure. It seems that at this point, the work her father and I did to fix the leak was totally unrelated to what happened later. I'm just thankful to God that these 3 got out of that car OK.
 
Not sure what will happen to the car now, it may well be that proverbial boat anchor that you spoke of earlier. Sorry to be so long winded here, but I just wanted to tell you that your suggestion was spot on and I thank you again for that info.

#6569 of 6629 Timing belt replaced by johnbarton

Jan 12, 2012 (9:13 am)

I have a 2000 VW Jetta 2.0L. The timing belt just broke on my Jetta. I drove to the store (no problems) when I came back out, I started it up, and it was running a little rough, and the check engine light came on. I turned the engine off, and then went to restart and it just spun. Towed it home and replaced T-belt. Now the engine is making a slight ticking noise that wasn't there before, and it seems to be idling a little rough. It sounds like it might have a bent valve. Could just turning it over with the stater have bent the valves?

#6570 of 6629 Re: Timing belt replaced [johnbarton] by revmarket

Jan 13, 2012 (11:53 am)

Replying to: johnbarton (Jan 12, 2012 9:13 am)
As was stated in the previous reply, yes it could have damaged a little or a lot.
Inspect the heads, and cylinders, and pistons, and valves for damage.
Cranking the engine can cause all those parts to move.
 
Is an 11 year old car worth a repair to the engine, or a new / used engine?
Only you and the owner can make that determination.
 
Praying all works well for the owner, the daughter and you.

#6571 of 6629 Re: Timing belt replaced [johnbarton] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 13, 2012 (12:44 pm)

Replying to: johnbarton (Jan 12, 2012 9:13 am)
You could do a compression test to see if one valve isn't seating just right.
 
Also I don't know if your valves are adjustable--if so, that's worth a shot if compression is okay. Also check the spark plugs for damage.

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