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#337 of 6655 Market Adjustment on T1.8???
May 07, 2000 (4:58 am)
I went to a VW dealer yesterday, interested in a 1.8T Jetta.
The sticker on this car stated $22625, with all the bells an whistles I desired (leather, sunroof, etc.). We got to the bargaining table, and the salesman threw an additional $1995 into the mix, by stating that this was " market adjustment". I went to the VW web site, and it says I can buy this car for $22625.
Is he trying to screw me, or is there a true shortage of these vehicles to allow for a Market adjustment on these vehicles? I could understand this on a Limited production vehicle, like a Vette, Porsche, or Jag( which could mean a lot higher mark-up),
but a Jetta?
Looks like additional dealer profit to me, in addition to the BS dealer prep/delivery charges that the dealerships are already reimbursed for, by the manufacturer. He could not explain to me what the Market Adjustment was for, even after he showed me 9 1.8T's on his lot! He told me it was based on the average of the last 10 sales in the area. So, I said, 10 people didn't do their homework, so that justifies the adjustment? Maybe I was harsh, but come on !
Any advice? I walked away, for now. I was willing to pay MSRP, but he, or the sales manager, wouldn't budge. Even MSRP would give them a $2000 profit, and that is not including any discounts/perks they already received. Are sales on VW's that bad?
#338 of 6655 My 2000 jetta is %$#@*&^
May 07, 2000 (12:49 pm)
I have a 2000 Jetta with 800 miles on it and it stalled in the middle of a major intersection, it just went dead. I tried to re-start it ten times. But when it did, the engine check went on and it stayed on. I took this piece of s--- to the dealer the next day. The dealer found the fuel pump malfunctioned and fixed it. But the thing is, I have this brand new car for only 3 weeks and have a major problem already. This is my 13th car in my 30 years of driving and never had this problem with my other cars. Is anybody out there have the same problem that I had?
#339 of 6655 Confused
May 07, 2000 (1:12 pm)
I am planning to buy a new car. I have three choices 1) Honda 2) Nissan Altima 3) VW Jetta
My first choice is Jetta but i do not know whether to get the GLS 2.0 or 1.8T Anyone could advice will be appreciated.
#340 of 6655 millersms1/lee71
May 07, 2000 (2:28 pm)
With nine of the babies on the lot I don't see how they can jack the price up. My advice would be to go to another dealer. I know the sales manager at the VW place here (Flow, Winston-Salem) and he just told me the other night over dinner with him and his wife that they are still scarce. I doubt he would jack the price up like the one you went to though, with his good inventory. I got a good deal on my VR6.
That said, I wouldn't want the turbo. Maybe it's just past stories I've heard working on me much in the same way as we have always been told to change oil at 3000 miles yet we don't really need to, but I've always heard turbos develop problems more often than normally-aspirated engines because of their nature. I guess it does get a little better mileage than my VR6, but the 6 is an older engine that should have the bugs worked out by now (I hope) whereas the T is still fairly new. I drove an Altima for a day while a part for my Jetta was being put on and it drove like a '70's Ford. The Honda is just too plain and common (not that plain and common is a bad thing, I'm just not going to pay $20K+ for those attributes in a car!) That's my 2 cents worth.
#341 of 6655 Market Adjustment & 1.8T
May 07, 2000 (3:39 pm)
I live in New England, there are more 1.8T's on the dealer lot than they know what to with. Don't pay dealer markup, it is a waste of your money. When you come to trade the car,you won't get back the dealer profit, this is just greed.
VW turbo engines need oil changes every 5,000 vs 10,000 for no turbo models, VW will cover all services for the first 24,000 miles. The turbo engine is the one to go for if you really want the Jetta. Turbos are reliable especially LPT models.
From my experience of VW's they used to make a good reliable product, now they just make good profit. My 99.5 will be the last VW ever, the car is trash, customer service sucks and warrany items are only honored until VW feels that they have spent enough on the car.
I am getting nowhere with the dealer or VW to resolve a long list of problems with the car.
By the way every time I visit the dealer (that's a lot) I always see a jetta with a window held in with tape. From my experience the window will fall out and you will wait 3 weeks for parts to arrive from Germany. Then the car will progressively get more and more problems, until you are so frustrated, you will just trade the car to get rid of it.
May 08, 2000 (12:14 pm)
I wouldn't classify a car as crap if a fuel pump goes at 800 miles. I would classify the fuel pump as crap and the quality control putting it together as crap. Give the car a chance and it may turn out to be a great car, I hope it does.
May 08, 2000 (2:42 pm)
get the 1.8t. It's been on the a4 for ages. So it's good stuff. Lighter too. And for 500bux you can chip it up to 200hp. easily handing the vr6 a good spanking.
peice of junk: It's unfortunate that it happened. But if I were to just get a new car for a coupla weeks, a problem like that would really piss me off too.
#344 of 6655 wsommariva
May 08, 2000 (3:16 pm)
the turbo was bad. the dealer replaced it in a day and gave me a rental in the meantime. drove my 1.8T all weekend and love it. while i'm here, does anyone have an opinion on the "sport suspension" package from VW or on quality aftermarket wheels for the Jetta? i would like to personalize it a little - but tastefully, and with quality parts.
Also for "millersms1", my dealer was pretty tight on price - I had to pay a little under list, but they threw in the six disc changer. there were other 1.8's on the lot, but they were all white, which I didn't want. personally i feel that any dealer that marks a car up over list is really trying to put it to you. just my opinion...
May 09, 2000 (12:38 am)
Get this, if your are having a problem with your Volkswagen, VW say they will only fix it, if they consider it to be serious. So if your car lurches when changing gear, or the steering clonk's at low speed, or your car drinks oil, or your seat belt dosn't work, or your interior blower vibrates the brake pedal. Then your car is working to manufacturers specification and will not be fixed under warranty.
So you think this information came from a bad dealer, yes they told me this , but it was confirmed by a senior customer service person in Auburn Hills, MI.
Now, if a car goes wrong once that could be considered unlucky, twice is getting annoying but by the tenth time this is a crap car, but again VW have the answer just ignore it, after all everyone else is having the same problem so it must be normal.
May 09, 2000 (2:31 pm)
Maybe VW has so many problems (minor) ones that they can only handle the major ones so that it will not clog up their repair shops?! That's stupid! A bumper to bumper warranty should cover every imperfection! I had a small rubber tear on my side mirror (frameless door) and I brought it back to my Scooby dealer, without hesitation, they replaced the entire rubber casing under warranty! I hope this issue is different from each VW dealership!