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#1205 of 3012 New 2004 Ford Taurus SEL Owner...
Mar 17, 2004 (7:12 am)
** First off, I apologize in advance for posting this message accross two forums, but I promise that this will be my first and LAST double-posted message.. I just need as much input as possible! **
I am new to this forum and wanted to post a message to you all for your feedback concerning the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable.
I purchased a fully loaded 2004 Ford Taurus SEL (with TCS, Mach, Home Link, etc.) back in January primarily to use as a work commuter vehicle. I chose the Merlot exterior with the two-tone parchment leather interior. My other vehicle is a 2003 GMC Envoy XL V-8, so the Taurus helps me save on fuel costs as well. I really like the Taurus because it's very roomy, has a nice look and seems to be ranked fairly high in terms of occupant safety. I looked at some other major competitors to the Taurus, but decided on the Ford based on the incentives and rebates that were available.
As with the good things, come the bad things. There are several items on my Taurus that kind of bother me, but not the the point where it deteriorates my ownership experience.
#1: Sound insulation? I honestly think that either my vehicle left the factory without any sound insulation materials at all OR this is just the nature of the beast? I specifically notice a lot of road noise, especially from the back seat area of the vehicle? It's not that quiet at all. I can really tell the difference when I drive my Envoy as compared to the Taurus, because the Ford is considerably noisier. On my first day of ownership, I checked the windows and sunroof several times because I swore that something had to be open for the vehicle to have that much wind noise? Could a lot of the noise stem from the Continental brand tires? If so, I will yank them and put on something else.
#2: Sunroof? I think that my sunroof may need adjusting due to the tremendous amount of wind noise that emanates from it while it's closed? Once on the freeway running approximately 80 mph, a cross-wind struck and it felt as if it were gonna rip off the sunroof? I felt (and heard) a big gush of wind come through it? Even when I go through the touchless car washes, the dryer cycle really gets the best of me. I am usually guaranteed to get WET everytime I go through the dryer cycle. I am guessing that the dryer creates enough force to push water from the seals into the vehicle and make it sound as if it's gonna rip off the sunroof? This alarms me because my predecessors did not do this (2002 Chevy Impala LS, 2002 Grand AM GT1, etc.). I thought about purchasing a sunroof deflector in hopes of cutting down on the wind noise. Would anyone suggest a particular brand/style?
#3: Duratec V-6? While this is a very strong engine for the Taurus, I have a wierd vibration that comes from my engine while on the freeway and accelerating? Does anyone else experience this? I can depress the accelerator 1/4 way down to pass a vehicle and I can feel this vibration either from the engine or tires.. but I am assuming it's the engine due to the fact that the vibration quits once I let off of the accelerator. Maybe this is just the nature of the engine, but I just did not think that it was that smooth? I can cruise along the freeway at 80 mph and the ride is as smooth as ever, once again allowing me to rule out any possibility of the tires. The vibration only occurs when I am accelerating. Additionally, I changed the engine oil over to Synthetic at 1K and the vibration seemed to diminish for a few days, now it's back again.
I have approximately 1500 miles on the odometer to date and have plans on possibly addressing these concerns during my first 5k scheduled maintenance appointment. Otherwise, I think that the Taurus is a wonderful vehicle, just wish that it was a little quieter? Oh.. last but not least, I purchased the Ford remote start for the vehicle and it works like a dream! The vehicle is nice and toasty every morning!
Any feedback that you all could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Mar 17, 2004 (12:03 pm)
I posted some comments over in the Taurus Sable Sedans board, but I have one more thought. On #3 could this vibration be your TCS kicking in during hard acceleration. I don't have TCS on my Taurus, so I don't know how TCS behaves to limit wheel slip, but does it momentarily apply brakes like ABS does? Can you turn TCS off and try the same acceleration?
#1207 of 3012 iexplore2000 by driverbern
Mar 17, 2004 (2:01 pm)
I have a 2002 SEL with 116K miles on it - loaded almost like yours. This car is not the most quiet so you will have to get used to the noise. I am not certain if it is the tires since I replaced my originals with the same brand when they were worn. The sunroof should not leak. I have been thru car washes and all kinds of weather and never had a problem.
#1208 of 3012 2002 Quietness
Mar 17, 2004 (9:56 pm)
It should be reasonably quiet. Maybe with 116K miles, there may be some squeaks and rattles, but engine and road noise should not be bad at highway speeds.
Replacing the factory tires with more of the same is a mistake. There are plenty of tires that are noticably quieter, last longer and provide better traction than the stock tires.
Mar 18, 2004 (6:13 am)
I love the handling of the Continentals that came on my wife's 2001 SEL but with about 35,000 miles on the car I think they are wearing down a bit faster than I'd like. Who has replaced the OEM Contis with something with good handling and good wear?
#1210 of 3012 "New" used '92 Sable
Mar 23, 2004 (10:01 am)
It looks like we are about to add a 1992 Mercury Sable GS (Vulcan) to our family, as my mother-in-law has decided to stop driving at age 91. This car is basically the definition of cream puff. Only 24,000 miles, garaged almost all the time in an unheated attached garage, and essentially like new condition, with excellent maintenance. We are likely to buy it from her for my son's first car. He is a responsible 21 year old college junior. I cannot see passing it up as we know the history, though he doesn't really have to have a car until perhaps a year from now
I am contemplating replacing tires, even though I see no dry rot on the OEM's and there is a lot of tread left. Also maybe getting hoses and belts inspected and maybe replaced before turning it over to my son.
Anything else all you Edmund's "experts" think needs doing/checking? No "off the wall" recommendations like changing brake fluid or power steering fluid, as I am of the opinion these types of non-manufacturer recommended items are not necessary.
Mar 24, 2004 (3:53 am)
I don't claim to be an X-spurt, but you might want to read this before dissing accurate, factual, technical information as "off the wall". Originally written as a brake fluid comparison but containing accurate information about glycol based brake fluid:
P.S. Why d'ya think EVERY container of glycol brake fluid contains the warning "Keep tightly sealed to prevent moisture contamination", or words to that effect?
Mar 24, 2004 (6:51 am)
While I understand the argument, it is hard for me to refute my personal experience of over 30 years of car ownership. I have never had a failure of brake components due to corroded master cylinders or calipers. Perhaps I have just been lucky, but that is my experience. I may have had brakes bled and fluid refills when I have routine brake jobs done, but this interval generally was more like 5-7 years.
My guess is that the moisture absorbed by brake fluid is in most cases not an issue, unless you live in very humid southern states.
Mar 24, 2004 (5:12 pm)
But you are only a database of one, and also each car is different. On say a Porsche, not flushing fluid regularly is a deadly mistake, so.....
Having said that, there's an easy way to settle the argument that should satisfy both sides. Look at the fluid reservoir. If it is not crystal clear like cooking oil, and has some darkening in evidence, change it right away.
As for coolant, it has a life of only a couple of years, that's pretty certain, but again if you want to be prudent but not reckless, take out a sample and judge its purity. Old coolant looks OLD.
And you're right, any "age-related" item like belts hoses and tires need a very close look.
I'd also give it a good long HARD run before turning it over to a young driver.