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Re: GM 4T60E Trans Problem - Grand Am(no 4th gear) [ron528] by imidazol97
Aug 28, 2007 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: ron528 (Aug 28, 2007 12:25 pm)

Since you didn't mention uneven shifting I would look for the simple. If the thermostat isn't making the motor heat up enough the transmission doesn't go into 4th gear. What does the temperature gauge say?
 
If the car is going 40 in 3rd at light throttle the transmission should have the torque converter clutch lockup. Does it? You can test that by slightly accelerating and touching the brake pedal to make it think you're braking and the transmission should unlock the TCC and the motor speed will increase. It will speed up if you just push down a noticeable amount on the pedal with the 4T60 if I recall correctly. What happens there? Is the TCC locking up?
 
It might be a sensor for temperature on the motor not telling the computer that the car is warm even if the thermostat is heating it up. The computer may use a different sensor from the one for the instrument panel.
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Re: GM 4T60E Trans Problem - Grand Am(no 4th gear) [imidazol97] by ron528
Aug 29, 2007 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 28, 2007 12:46 pm)

As far as uneven shifting, it waits a little long to shift but not to far out of the normal range (light acceleration shifts into second at 3,200, and third around 3,000.
 
The car is warmed up and the temperature guage is reading half-way up. I can feel the torque converter lockup working.
 
Additional info: In third gear at 60mph, it tachs 3,000rpm. And when I let off the gas it drops to about 2,000rpm or 1,800rpm. Once I shift from "3" into "D", it remains at 3,000rpm under light load at 60mph. And when I let off the gas the tach drops to 1,000rpm almost instantly. Then to resume crusing you have to push on the gas and spool the motor back up to 3,000rpm. It is a very noticable thing that is not normal.
 
I'm thinking something migfht have happened to the vacuum modulator if it has one?
 
Any additional info will be helpful! Thanks!
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Re: GM 4T60E Trans Problem - Grand Am(no 4th gear) [ron528] by imidazol97
Aug 29, 2007 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: ron528 (Aug 29, 2007 4:46 am)

I'm assuming that the TCC is locking up properly. And you said the motor is heating up to temperature--you should't be able to hold your hand on the upper radiator hose more than a couple of seconds after driving 10-15 minutes because it's hot.
 
I dug out the 93 service manual for leSabre with a 4T60E transmission... my 98 leSabre only covers 4T65E.
No 3-4 shift:
 
control valve assembly; 3-4 shift valve (#362) stuck
 
4th clutch shaft; spline damage
 
4th clutch assembly; clutch plates burned, piston seals or piston damaged, clutch plates or piston mislocated
 
shift cable adjustment
 
The "shift cable" is the PNOD21 adjustment. If your car will start in Park and in Neutral, and you can select 1 and it stays in 1st gear, 2nd gives 1-2 upshift, 3 or D gives 1-2-3, that's probably not a problem. It's not an accelerator cable that adjusted the shift quality for engine power. I believe that's all electronic.
 
If everything else is relatively good in shift quality and you're getting nothing in 4th, I doubt it's the stovepipe or clutchshaft they list; I believe people have roughness when that's not working or stripped.
 
Good luck. I'm betting on a stuck/clogged solenoid valve in control body, but that's without driving it myself to sense what's happening.
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Re: GM 4T60E Trans Problem - Grand Am(no 4th gear) [imidazol97] by ron528
Aug 29, 2007 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 29, 2007 5:13 am)

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
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2001 Montero Sport has a wierd burning smell? by jaredloves90
Sep 04, 2007 (1:56 pm)
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Every time i drive it somewhere i get out of the car and this burning rubber smell is coming from the engine, any idea what i could be?
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Re: 2001 Montero Sport has a wierd burning smell? [jaredloves90] by im_brentwood
Sep 04, 2007 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: jaredloves90 (Sep 04, 2007 1:56 pm)

Probably a slipping belt.. check the belt tensioner.
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Re: 2001 Montero Sport has a wierd burning smell? [jaredloves90] by kiawah
Sep 04, 2007 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: jaredloves90 (Sep 04, 2007 1:56 pm)

or you could have one of the accessories bearing frozen up, and the engine w/belt continues to try and turn it....forcing the belt to slip and burn up. I suspect your belt isn't long for the world.
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Re: 98 Mitsubishi Montero Sport when in drive drives mushy! [dnealy] by dnealy
Sep 04, 2007 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: dnealy (Aug 07, 2007 7:31 am)

Well, I finally gave up and took the 98 Mitsubishi Monterp Sport to a transmission shop. He hooked it up to his transmission scanner to read the codes beyond the P1600 and found that it was a fuse that had blown. He said it was probably from the previous owner removing the CD changer located in the back. Now it's working and shifting just fine. A simple fix. Check the fuses!
David
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89 olds cutlass ciera by fireredshirey
Sep 10, 2007 (4:06 pm)
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I think it may be the tcc solenoid when you go 4-5 mile down the road it shuts off when you come to a stop. recrank it cranks but when u put in gear it shuts off again. where is this located and is it easy to replace??? please help.
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to fix transmission or get a new car by erinjennings
Sep 17, 2007 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: gchernya1 (Apr 30, 1999 7:08 pm)

I have a 1996 Honda Civic with 122,000 miles. I had hoped to have it until 200,000 miles before I even considered getting another car, but today I had it towed to a Honda Dealer Shop with what appeared to be serious transmission issues that just popped up without warning.(a totally out of wack speedometer and a check engine light on)
 
I've always serviced the car (it's last transmission fluid change was at 95,000 miles).
Depending on what the mechanic tells me... should I get the transmission fixed and try to get another 80,000 miles out of it... or should I get another car.

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