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Mr_Shiftright by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 04, 1999 (10:28 pm)
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Well, back in those days to design and build an entirely new 5-speed was expensive...this way, you just add a unit onto the original three or four speed...a different tail shaft housing. The overdrive in the 3rd gear of a 4 speed was not intended, it's just something you got for free...often, like with jaguar or mg or volvo (1960s, early 70s) they'd only allow you to flip into overdrive in 4th gear, but you could easily by-pass that. On AMerican cars, typical overdrive was activated in the 50s & 60s by a cable under the dashboard..this worked with the typical 3-speed column shift of cars of that era. I don't recall any 4-speed American overdrives.


Five speeds were rare in the 60s...mostly the exotic Italian cars had them, and that was about it. It was really the Japanese who made them commonplace.
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wpeng1 by wpeng1
Feb 05, 1999 (2:24 am)
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But Mr. Shiftright
Why do we need overdrive?
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Mr_Shiftright by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 05, 1999 (2:35 am)
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Well, fuel economy and reduction of rpm/engine noise at cruising speeds are two benefits. It's awfully nice, especially with today's high-revving overhead cam engines, to be able to plop it down in 5th or an "overdrive" gear and watch the RPMs drop from a buzzy 3800 rpm to a melllow 3000. The downside is that people sometimes forget that the overdrive gear isn't very good for hill-climbing or any kind of serious work, so they sometimes mash the gas in overdrive and go...nowhere fast...


Of course, all these extra gears and overdrive circuitry makes for more expensive transmission overhauls.
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odycee by odycee
Feb 06, 1999 (3:23 pm)
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My 85 Toyota Cressida has some kind of jerking or clunking sound when I let go of the accelerator during slowing down. It's a AUTO w/ 4sp Overdrive. I think it's a u-joint needs to be replaced. The car have 185K miles on it. Any ideas ? I pray it's not the tranmission.
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gchernya1 by gchernya1
Feb 07, 1999 (1:35 pm)
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Yes, your prayers positively answered - with a high probability it's engine mounts you have to check first.
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odycee by odycee
Feb 07, 1999 (8:11 pm)
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Why engine mount? Do u mean the engine mount is loose from the frame? Can u go a little more in detail. Thanks.
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gchernya1 by gchernya1
Feb 10, 1999 (2:17 am)
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Engine mounts on the modern cars is two peaces of metal separated with layer of rubber. With years, rubber is wearing thin and allows more engine movement during the load changes. When You accelerate, certain forces trying to push engine indirection opposite the direction of rotating axles. With bad engine mounts engine can move as much as 1-2 inches. After You remove foot from gas, engine can bounce back under own weight, and you can hear clunk or thud, depends on degree of rubber wear - if little left, or nothing left at all. I hope it will help you understand how it works.


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odycee by odycee
Feb 10, 1999 (8:15 pm)
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Thanks for the explaination, I think I understood your answer. I guess it's just like mechanical backlash when the gears are worn out.
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sad3 by sad3
Feb 10, 1999 (10:19 pm)
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1992 chevy astro van transmission problem no reverse or second gear. Any suggestions on how to solve this problem?
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gus by gus
Feb 10, 1999 (11:06 pm)
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Automatic transmission? Doesn't sound good. Even if it's a manual transmission, it doesn't sound good. You may need to take it in for repair or replacement. Have it checked out though, before you just walk into a shop and say "I need a new transmission."

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