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#735 of 784 Re: Time for tires! [shipo]
Sep 06, 2010 (12:33 pm)
I plan to try the X-Ice one of these years. It is the most expensive of the genre (at least... it is here), so my old $800 Escort was not the car on which I was going to spend the extra $100 to try them!
#736 of 784 Re: Different brands [guitarzan]
Sep 06, 2010 (12:56 pm)
Yes, all season tires are typically mediocre at everything they do, but not great at any particular function. I am glad my tire guy pounded that lesson into me years ago. Everyone around me uses only all season tires throughout the winter and I think that fact alone causes a lot of accidents.
I used to use all-season tires exclusively, on all types of vehicles, which amounted to about ten winters (probably around 80-90 thousand miles on snow and/or ice) of Fairbanks driving without ever using a winter-rated tire (studded or otherwise). I even used my old '69 C20 this way exclusively one winter and regularly for a couple more.
In Cleveland, I suspect deep snowfalls wreak havoc on all-seasons, but we don't ever get what a snow-belt resident would consider a "deep" snowfall (maybe as much as 12 inches / 25 centimeters over 24 hours once in a blue moon). It isn't so much a matter of getting around and/or "being safe" (in a general sense, such as driving distance, speed, stopping, etc) with all-seasons as it is being able to respond and avoid true emergency situations (those situations that arise without warning, such as a moose bolting from the forest directly ahead or an oncoming car veering into your lane). And, not all all-seasons perform as well as others. Some of them are downright dangerous to use in anything approximating winter, others are as good as some studded tires whose studs are past their prime.
The vast majority of the time, though, a crash is caused by the driver - not the equipment. You give an incompetent driver (for a given set of conditions) better equipment and the end result is going to be a worse crash.
Although we purchased a couple of used cars in the past several years that came with dedicated winter (studded) tires, I think, for me, the real shift in personal tire habits came with the purchase of my Forester last Fall. I knew I would need a new set of tires (the stock Yokohama Geolandar tires are garbage on icy roads), so that expense was a given. So, I discussed preferences with my wife (since it is really her car) and she wanted the winter tires.
After experiencing that car (which is pretty darn competent in icy conditions, even with marginal tires) with all-seasons and the winter tires, I was a believer. It is not that I cannot drive the car safely without winter tires, it is just that I now choose not to do so. When I have to use my old C20 in the winter, though, I'll just have to make do with the all-seasons because there is no way I'm going to splurge on winter tires for that thing!
#737 of 784 I love, Love, LOVE these tires!
Nov 23, 2010 (11:29 am)
We are having quite the unique weather here in Fairbanks this week.
The Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice tires are doing an amazing job on my Subaru Forester, getting me everywhere I need to go and anywhere I want to go. The best part is that the roads are nearly deserted, so I have leave to enjoy the drive to its fullest!
I drove my Escort yesterday, with the Continental ExtremeWinterContact. It did very well, too, with drivers slipping into the ditches all around, but I had to work much harder at keeping that car on the road just due to its "one wheel drive" nature.
Is it wrong of me to enjoy inclement weather this much?
#738 of 784 Re: Which tire? [pcleveland2]
Dec 05, 2010 (3:22 pm)
I tried the Continental Extremecontact DWS All Season tires and they worked well. I was very impressed with its all season abilities. Its dry performance is just a tiny tiny bit less impressive than the factory goodyears that came on my Audi, but it more than makes up for that in its cold weather and snow performance. Really a great tire and its very inexpensive.
If you want to see what my car can do in the snow just watch this video.
Hope the information helps you...
#739 of 784 Re: Which tire? [strokera4]
Dec 05, 2010 (3:44 pm)
isnt drifting bad for your tires?
#740 of 784 Re: Which tire? [airtas]
Dec 05, 2010 (4:02 pm)
Why would drifting in snow be bad for tires?
Dec 05, 2010 (7:11 pm)
love to drift in the snow. Can't help myself. Snow means you can get a nice 4 wheel drift with opposite lock at reasonable speeds.
I drive pretty conservatively on dry roads, but snow time is play time. Of course with 4 snow tires - Michelin xi-2 currently.
#742 of 784 Re: Which tire? [strokera4]
Dec 06, 2010 (10:19 am)
So, did you folks have yourselves a lively game of rochambeau to decide who would get the privilege of playing in the unmolested snow?
#743 of 784 Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D Tire Pressures
Dec 18, 2010 (4:47 pm)
So the Legacy wagon has 205/55R16 Dunlop SP WinterSport 3Ds on a set of 16" WRX wheels. So far, it has been quite the set up and it earned a paycheck in last week's storms. My question was is there a recommended change in tire pressure with the winter tires? I believe the door sticker is 30/32 and I typically run 2-3 above that. Any thoughts?
These replaced Hankook IcePike W404s that were purchased used and had some issues with wear making they NOISY. I think those were considered "studable winter" and these new ones are "performance winter" and I have to say, for SE MI winters, these seem to be the ticket.
#744 of 784 Re: Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D Tire Pressures [lilengineerboy]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Dec 19, 2010 (7:30 am)
If those are the stock size for your car, then tire pressures should remain the same.. (if you typically run higher pressures, then no reason to change)..
If you go +/- on the wheel diameter, then recommended pressures usually go up/down, accordingly...
Some people like to run lower pressures in deeper snow conditions, to get a wider contact patch, but I don't like to mess with my dry road handling, since that's still 99% of my driving in winter..