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Snow/Ice winter tires

708 messages,  Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM

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Re: Thanks and one more thing [shanghaikid] by xwesx
Oct 01, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: shanghaikid (Oct 01, 2009 2:48 pm)

I also have TPMS sensors on my foucs tires, I'm not planning to have those on my snow tires, that just means that light will be on all the time...
 
That's right, and no big deal as long as you keep an eye on your tire pressure (which is a good idea anyway!). They were quoting you around $400 for just tires, or for a complete package (includes rims?). The TPMS sensors are in the valve stems on the rims, so that is not an issue at all if you are just swapping out tires. If the package includes rims, well, that really is a screamin' deal!
 
I would definitely recommend a studless tire for your area. As dry as the roads tend to be, your studs will be nubs in no time and do nothing to add to your traction when you really need it. Plus, you would have to deal with the major noise created by them on your long commute.
 
Now that I think about it, you might consider Green Diamond tires; they are quite effective on ice and they are not adversely affected by dry roads. Studless snow tires, due to their soft tread compounds, tend to wear quickly on dry roads. Some, like Blizzaks, also feel "squishy" on dry pavement and/or in warm weather. I am not sure about the Green Diamond availability in your area.
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Re: Recommendations for a 2008 Ford Focus that won't break the bank [xwesx] by altair4
Oct 02, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 01, 2009 8:39 am)

Nokian WR G2's might fit the bill. They wear pretty well and have performed well for me in the hills of western Pennsylvania.
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Thanks again by shanghaikid
Oct 02, 2009 (8:12 am)
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I usually check my tire pressure a few times a month manually anyway
Yea these price quotes were for without rims.
 
Here are a few totals with wheels
 
Schwab Stud-less $708 with wheels Toyo tires
 
Steve's Tire Factory Kelly Snow Trackers Stud-less with wheels and mounting $677
 
Perfection Tire Winterforce Stud-less $681
 
Might be a better deal to use my old snow tires which fit the focus and track down some steelies, although if they only have one or two more seasons, I should either pay the $50 and get them mounted on my focus wheels or just pony up the money and get new snow tires
 
At these prices if I plan to buy new ones I might as well just buy everything from Tirerack.com. Anyone have an idea on a ballpark estimate, how much someone would charge to put the snow tires with wheels on?
 
Thanks again for all the help.
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Re: Thanks again [shanghaikid] by xwesx
Oct 02, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: shanghaikid (Oct 02, 2009 8:12 am)

Kelly Snowtrakker? DON'T get those! They are worthless.... really.... Even studded, they are pretty pathetic. Perhaps, if you can get them for $40 a tire, they might seem worthwhile, but I have used those on two vehicles and they are no better than a decent all-season.
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Re: Thanks and one more thing [shanghaikid] by hammerhead
Oct 02, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: shanghaikid (Oct 01, 2009 2:48 pm)

Ahhh... Kennewick. The banana belt. Spokane here.
Sounds like you have some choices.
I need to get some steel wheels for my snows so I don't have to remount twice a year.
 
Cheers!
Paul
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Costco by shanghaikid
Oct 05, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Saw that Costco had Michelin - X-IceŽ Xi2, gave me a great price installed, sure you pay a little more for the name but reviews point out its a much better tire then some of what I've been looking at.
 
Tirerack doesn't seem to be any cheap with the Xi2's, they want 93 a tire plus $44 to ship it. I'll have to pay at least $40-$50 to get them installed somewhere
Thanks again for all of your help guys
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Re: Costco [shanghaikid] by hammerhead
Oct 05, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: shanghaikid (Oct 05, 2009 3:21 pm)

Michelin's a good tire. Keep it upright this winter
 
Cheers!
Paul
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Mixing and matching by lilengineerboy
Oct 05, 2009 (6:17 pm)
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We have an '05 Subaru Legacy wagon and I have an used set of WRX wheels for it. Those WRX wheels have Hankook W404 snow tires, 2 are like new, 1 is used but serviceable, and one seems to have a lot of wear on the outside edge. Can I get 2 new Hankook W409 (the tire that came after the 404) and run those in the back with the W404s in the front? How do you do it when you have one pair more worn than the other pair?
I know that the tires have to be close in diameter and wear so the differentials don't freak out, and I think I have that covered if I get 1 new pair, but I don't want one end to have dramatically more traction than the other. Any thoughts?
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Re: Mixing and matching [lilengineerboy] by mz6greyghost
Oct 06, 2009 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 05, 2009 6:17 pm)

If you can afford it, I'd simply get 4 new tires and call it a day.
 
But if those W404s are really in excellent shape, I don't see the problem with 2 W409s, as long as the tires are the same type and the tread difference isn't such that you would have problems with the differential.
 
I'd also put the tires with more tread at the rear of the vehicle, Remember it's always easier to control understeer than oversteer, even with AWD.
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Re: Costco [hammerhead] by xwesx
Oct 06, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: hammerhead (Oct 05, 2009 5:33 pm)

I also think so. I nearly went with the Xi2, but it was $100 more expensive than the Goodyear (for 4) and, considering my current budget, I did not feel that warranted them at this time. I have no experience with either of them so had to go with data and reviews alone. Neither tire are all that common locally (Blizzak dominates the local scene), so I just had to "go with my gut." I'm sure either is a far better tire than the OEM tires on my car currently!
 
I shall find out in a couple weeks....

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