Snow/Ice winter tires

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#635 of 708 Re: Re BMW 328i: Question [driver100] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Nov 13, 2008 (9:21 am)
Replying to: driver100 (Nov 12, 2008 6:38 pm) I doubt there's a tire in the world that would have made much difference. However, studded tires on four wheels PLUS a good driver might have at least gotten off to the side of the road without serious mishap, don't you think? They race on ice in Sweden after all Replies to this message: driver100 (Nov 13, 2008 1:45 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2008 1:59 pm) driver100 (Nov 14, 2008 1:18 pm)
#636 of 708 Re: Final decision [mz6greyghost] by driver100 Nov 13, 2008 (1:41 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Nov 13, 2008 8:22 am) Which set of tires did you decide on? mz6 I had to go with the Blizzacks because that is part of the special package to get it at that price, all balances, with wheel covers, BMW knowledgeable staff (air pressure guage to be considered) and tire totes. I would like to have gotten the tires that last twice as long - Michelins and Dunlops, but I only do about 12,000 miles a year so these should last longer than I keep the car. This is part of what the article said about how long tires last..... Michelin claims its new tire will last 75 per cent longer than its main rival. The unnamed rival, I suspect, is the Bridgestone Blizzak. And that vast difference in wear rate would be based on the fact the Blizzak is a multicell compound for only 55 per cent of its tread depth. The remaining 45 per cent of the tire is a standard winter compound. Blizzacks are supposed to be extremely good along with Michelin and Dunlop, with the other 2 lasting longer. They all are far superior to the other tires that don't have the latest technology.
#637 of 708 Re: Re BMW 328i: Question [Mr_Shiftright] by driver100 Nov 13, 2008 (1:45 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2008 9:21 am) However, studded tires on four wheels PLUS a good driver might have at least gotten off to the side of the road without serious mishap, don't you think? They race on ice in Sweden after all Mr_S, I wouldn't have wanted to be on those roads with studs and chains on my tires! Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2008 1:59 pm) driver100 (Nov 14, 2008 1:18 pm)
#638 of 708 Re: Re BMW 328i: Question [driver100] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Nov 13, 2008 (1:59 pm)
Replying to: driver100 (Nov 13, 2008 1:45 pm) I remember seeing videos of US heavy tanks sliding off roads, so if it can happen to them it can happen to you. Of course, they win every argument in a collision. Replies to this message: driver100 (Nov 14, 2008 1:18 pm)
#639 of 708 winter tire sizing by pedrok Nov 14, 2008 (9:48 am)
My OEM size is 205 55 r16. If I get winter rims that are 16 x 6,5, Can I put P225 60 R16's on them and what effect would the larger size have. A friend is willing to GIVE me some one year old winter tires, but I was wondering what the larger size might do?
#640 of 708 Re: Re BMW 328i: Question [Mr_Shiftright] by driver100 Nov 14, 2008 (1:18 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 13, 2008 1:59 pm) I remember seeing videos of US heavy tanks sliding off roads, I could be wrong, but I don't think those big rigs have snow tires on them. Do they change 18 wheels every season? I get my 4 snow tires next week. though I don't like paying $1700, I think it will be worth it in that one accident would cost way more than $1700. I am going ahead based on the comments from this site and the facts it lead me to look up.
#641 of 708 WRG2's first round in Portland OR by kurtamaxxxguy Dec 14, 2008 (5:23 pm)
Tried them and my Forester XT today on Portland local roads. Turned out ODOT declared, unknown to me, that Chains were required on all Portland roads. And quite a few other cars were having some traction problems. The WRG2's worked fine on 1 - 2" of snow, less well on ice (every so often, a wheel would lost some traction on an especially slippery spot of road, and the XT would momentarily slip sideways, but would quickly recover). For XT "Hoons", accelerating in a turn on an icy road will definitely cause the XT tail to swing out. Stop accelerating to let the XT recover. Replies to this message: hammerhead (Dec 14, 2008 6:00 pm)
#642 of 708 Re: WRG2's first round in Portland OR [kurtamaxxxguy] by hammerhead Dec 14, 2008 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Dec 14, 2008 5:23 pm) I find it mildly amusing that chains are required with only a couple inches of snow on the ground. Granted, it's Portland, with many hills, usually milder weather, and folks not used to snow on the roads, but I still find it amusing. Disclaimer: I'm not being a Portland basher at all - I have family there, it's a wonderful place to visit, but maybe not when everybody's sliding around. Cheers! Paul
#643 of 708 You gotta be careful by kurtamaxxxguy Dec 14, 2008 (10:50 pm)
It's not the snow, it's the ice that's the bugaboo up here. The latest storm started out as rain, which was frozen on the ground as the Canadian arctic winds blew in with more snow. In my apartment lot, in which the road has turned to ice, several cars were spinning tires wildly, others needed chains, a few (including mine) managed OK on their winter tires, as long as we were careful. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 15, 2008 7:17 am) hammerhead (Dec 17, 2008 8:52 am)
#644 of 708 Re: You gotta be careful [kurtamaxxxguy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 15, 2008 (7:17 am)
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Dec 14, 2008 10:50 pm) A car is totally defenseless against sheer slick moist ice. I don't care what you put on the wheels, you're pretty much screwed although you might be able to tippy-toe to the side of the road.