Snow/Ice winter tires

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#235 of 708 more Nokian by geoffdgti Mar 20, 2003 (4:09 pm)
In the process of surfing looking for up-to-date information about the Nokian product line, I learned: Nokia (the cell phone company from Finland) sold their 18% stake in Nokian to Bridgestone January 24, 2003. Nokian is rolling out a Hakka 4 studded snow tire with an improved square stud system. They claim it works much better at retaining studs and that it works much better on dry paved roads.
#236 of 708 by adp3 Mar 31, 2003 (1:39 pm)
Is it just a downright stupid idea, for a driver in the SF Bay Area, to put different tires on his SUV (or AWD wagon, for example) for the winter months than he uses the other 9 months of the year? Maybe use a tire that gives better mileage and "every day" performance from March-November, but put some deeper tread/"snow" tires on for December-February to improve performance in snow country. I know some of you folks are doin gthis, but does it make sense in the Bay Area?
#237 of 708 reply adp3 by pluto5 Mar 31, 2003 (2:55 pm)
Is it worth it to spend a couple hundred bucks at tirerack to save a $500+ deductible in an avoidable accident?
#238 of 708 adp3 by robr2 Mar 31, 2003 (3:03 pm)
Where do you drive in the winter? Do you go to Tahoe or have deal with snow often? If so, you may want to consider a dedicated set of snow tires mounted on spare rims. IMHO, it's better than chains or cables to basically not have to worry about the tires. Nokian makes one tire that is all season and has the snowflake emblem. The Michelin Arctic Alpic is a compromise tire that wears well on non-snow/ice covered roads. Good luck in your decision.
#239 of 708 Nokian NRW/WR by protege_fan Mar 31, 2003 (3:22 pm)
They prefer to call them "all-weather" tires to differentiate them from "all-seasons" (ie. all-seasons aren't "mountain-snowflake" certified whereas all-weathers are). I have the NRWs and they did fantastic for me up here in The Great White North.
#240 of 708 by dudleyr Mar 31, 2003 (9:03 pm)
I agree the NRW makes a lot of sense to use if you don't encounter a lot of snow, but do need occasional winter tire traction. Not gonna find it at Sams club though!
#241 of 708 protege fan... by robr2 Apr 01, 2003 (8:56 am)
Nokian's website (at least North America) doesn't show that the NRW has the snowflake designation and the WR says it's an SUV tire. Hence I was a bit confused.
#242 of 708 Robr2 by protege_fan Apr 01, 2003 (10:09 am)
I know...it's confused me as well. I've read on a few sites that the WR is replacing the NRW. I'm certain I saw the mountain snowflake on the NRW's on their site though. This was about half-a-year ago though...maybe they've switched things up. Actually, I just went to their site (www.nokian.com) and noticed that the WR's are listed as winter passenger vehicle tires. They don't even list the NRW's under their current products (at least not that I can find). Ah...now if you goto the North American site (http://www.nokiantires.com/indexen.html), they have the NRW's, but no WR's. Very confusing.
#243 of 708 by adp3 Apr 01, 2003 (11:26 am)
thanks for the replies - I did mean my post as a real question, not as any sort of jab at folks who are doing this. I live in the SF Bay Area, so only deal with snow about once a month in the winter on drives up to Tahoe (and then while I am there). I did not realize that good snow tires are a better idea than chains (or Spike's Spiders). Sounds like having a set of snow tires mounted on wheels makes sense. It's probably just as easy to change 4 tires as it is to mount my Spike's Spiders. So, keep the "stock" tires on for most of the year, and then go to the snows on a weekend to weekend basis in the winter, eh? I wonder if they have a rim that looks like a snowflake?
#244 of 708 by dudleyr Apr 01, 2003 (1:24 pm)
The NRW does have the mountain ans snowflake symbol, and should do very well in snow and ice. Go to the link below and click on NRW there is a scanned brochure. http://www.meadowcreektire.com/nokian/index.htm You wouldn't have to put the snows on every weekend, you could put them on before your first trip up the mountains, and take them off after the season ends. They are fine as an all weather tire too. If you are going to put them on for the weekend you could get a more dedicated snow tire than the NRW, or a studded tire, since there is no need to compromise.