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In the pipeline by steve_ HOST
Oct 29, 2005 (8:09 pm)
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If you have a backup camera or sensor in your car, you're just an early adopter for a bunch of stuff to come.
 
"While the best known application for automotive image sensors is rear view assist, there are several key emerging applications, Stith said, including lane tracking or lane departure warning, 360-degree view around the car (no blind spots), parking assistance and adaptive cruise control."
 
Micron rolls out second generation auto image sensor (EE Times)
 
Another blurb:
 
"Cameras used to replace side view mirrors might also help boost fuel economy in some vehicles, such as trucks where large amounts of aerodynamic drag are created by relatively large mirrors."
 
Chipmaker Sees Big Picture for Cars (PC Magazine)
 
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Re: [masksav] by masksav
Oct 30, 2005 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: masksav (Oct 25, 2005 7:17 am)

Got this from Eclipse Tech support today on the BEC105
 
Thank you for contacting Eclipse:
  
The camera is only about an inch squared but tapers toward the lens. The date of release is not available yet but I'm assuming sometime in jan or feb.
  
Tech Support
 
I can wait until Jan or Feb for this one. It's half the size of the 103 and 104
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blind spots by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2005 (8:34 pm)
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"While most drivers are aware that there are areas behind their vehicle in which they cannot see, many don't realize how large those areas can be. The problem is worse in trucks and SUVs than in other cars because of their increased height and the distance between the driver and the tailgate or rear window."
 
SUV backover deaths: What can be done? (CNN)
 
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Backup Sensor: Poron, Rostra, or else? by kthan
Nov 14, 2005 (1:23 pm)
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I am looking for a backup sensor for my 06 Odyssesy. I searched the forum and found that many people liked Poron and Rosta sensors.
 
Here is my preference:
 
1. It should detect fairly close distance (I was told that Rosta can detect by 6 inch. According to Poron, they can detect up to 12 inch) because the main reason to buy the sensors is for parallel parking in downtown area.
 
2. Reliability and durability: This is very important because one failure could damage my car, which will cost a lot.
 
3. Easy of installation and use: I prefer under the bumper installation. But, Rostra had only two sensors (worried about the coverage). In order to get four sensors in Rostra, I have to drill the bumper. Poron has an edge (no need to drill). But, I am not sure if the sensors are fully hidden (or looks ugly). I also like Poron's voice notification (if it is quite accurate).
 
Given the preference, please let me know which one would be the best for me. If none of these two, let me know the other model.
Thank you for your help in advance.
#108 of 132
Re: Backup Sensor: Poron, Rostra, or else? [kthan] by obyone
Nov 15, 2005 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: kthan (Nov 14, 2005 1:23 pm)

I had both Rostra and Poron installed. First the poron, then the Rostra. The Rostra seems to me to be way more durable in terms of how it's built. Was never happy with the Poron as it reminded me of a toy and built rather flimsy.
 
I didn't have any problems with the coverage for my '00 full size Chevy truck.
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Re: Backup Sensor: Poron, Rostra, or else? [obyone] by kthan
Nov 15, 2005 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Nov 15, 2005 3:30 am)

Where did you install the Rostra sensors (underneath the bumper or drill the bumper?...I prefer underneath the bumper but I can only install two sensors, compared to four sensors directly attached to the bumper)?
 
Also, how effective the alarm sound? I think voice activation in Poron sensors is quite appealing (what model did you have in Poron?). Without it, we only know (maybe) 3-4 difference frequency (I guess) without knowing the exact distance I am currently on. But, I am not sure how this really matters in reality, though.
 
Also, Rostra said everytime I put brake the sensor will reset and re-detect the distance. I don't know it would be the same thing as the other sensors.
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Re: Backup Sensor: Poron, Rostra, or else? [kthan] by obyone
Nov 17, 2005 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: kthan (Nov 15, 2005 4:44 am)

The rostra was installed below the bumper on both sides of the rear license plate.
 
I didn't like the idea of drilling holes in my bumper so I had 4 small stainless steel brackets made for me which I tack welded to the bumper to install the poron.
 
The rostra model that I installed had both audio and visual indicators. I didn't bother with the audio and installed the visual indicator in the roof panel between the seats. They were coded red yellow and green for different distances.
 
The poron model had both audio and a digital led readout as to the distance between the truck and any object.
 
What it came down to is durability. The wires on the poron are really thin as compared to the cable looking type that came with the rostra. Being installed on the outside of the vehicle and being subjected to just about every type of abuse, the poron did not hold up well and I had to replace the wires once. The second time around I bought the rostra.
 
I's surprised that your rostra would reset by depressing the brakes. Reason being that the sensors do not turn off until you shift out of reverse so there should be no resetting unless you shifted. Could be that it was installed differently.
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Re: Backup Sensor: Poron, Rostra, or else? [obyone] by kthan
Nov 20, 2005 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Nov 17, 2005 6:00 pm)

I was informed from one of dealer that I cannot install backup sensors underneath the bumper because Odyssey has plastic bumper. The only way I can do is drill it and install the sensors directly attach to bumper. Can anyone confirm this?
 
Also, it looks like Rostra had only one color (black). Where can get the sensors painted (matched to my vehicle)?
 
One more: Rostra has two different sensors (obstacle sensoring system and parking assist). The first one uses microwave technology (mostly used for truck & large van) and the second one uses ultrasonic technology (as most others uses). The first one comes with LED monitor and the second one is sonic (sound alarm) only. But, the advantage of the second one is it can detect as short as 5-6 inch, while the first one detect up to 1 feet (!2 inch). I am leaning toward the second one, but it looks like "microwave" technology works better in harsh weather condition (rain, snow, etc.). Please advise me what to choose.

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