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1507 messages, Last post on Mar 07, 2012 at 12:47 PM
You are in the BMW X3 & X5 Forum.What is this discussion about? BMW X5, SUV
#471 of 1507 RE: Used BMW X5 4.4 by tinlittle
Dec 27, 2001 (10:42 pm)
I believe your asking price is too high. The 2001 X5 was offered with $2500 dealer cash and .00195 lease rate. That translates into a similar equipped 2001 model with a selling price for around $46000 brand new ($1000 dealer profit since it is year end model). And the low lease rate helps with a lower monthly payment.You are essentially offer a 2000 model with 35000 miles on it that is only 10 percent off a 2001 brand new model. If you ask me, you should take another $6000 off and I might consider it.
#472 of 1507 SUV Guy by brianinvegas
Dec 28, 2001 (7:12 am)
I have the 4.4i with sport package and 19" wheels. The ride is not harsh but very solid. Made 4 trips to San Diego from Las Vegas in the past 8 weeks and hit some very bad Calif. roads. Can't imagine taking any other vehicle on that long trip.The wife and I also have a '98 Vette and a '00 4x4 Silverado so we wanted a firm ride with great handling.
Test drive a sport package before you buy though.
#473 of 1507 dealmkrjjd by bertram60
Dec 28, 2001 (9:56 am)
The ride height is one real advantage to the X5, and as I live in a flood zone, it was one of the reasons for switching to a higher vehicle (I couldn't bear to take my A8 through 2' to 3' of water in the roads, although I have had to do it). The utility of the truck also exceeds that of the Audi (not by much though). I have equated the ride of the 4.4 sport more to that of a Porsche, as it's handling is very good, no lean or sway, and the ride is very firm, but not really harsh (although I might worry about it in extreme cold if we had that weather). The two vehicles are almost diametrically opposed. The X5 screams to be noticed, has a very raspy, sporty exhaust, and is a very high profile vehicle (IMO) as compared to the subtle (albeit dated) looks of the A8 and the pure silence of the car. Materials in the A8 (interior and exterior) are by far superior in quality to that of the BMW. Fit and finish are flawless and acceleration is amazing (especially when you consider size and weight). My car had warm weather package (insulated glass, and solar sunroof) which made it silent inside that car at double the posted speed limits. One of my biggest adjustment was actually hearing the motor and road noise in the X5.I loved the fact that the Audi was such a low profile car (i de-badge all my cars),and a relatively rare sedan (2,500 per year total production with 1/3 of that coming to the US) capable of triple digit speeds with very little drama, amazing grip, and the very best materials inside.
Had my dealer not tried to close out his model year with a bang (raping me in the process), had the right model (S8) and color combination been available, i would have bought a new S8 from them instead of the X5.
I do not regret buying the BMW and enjoy the truck a lot, but it's no love affair, my heart was stolen by the Audi, and when the new version of the A8 debuts in '03 i will probably switch back.
The BMW is a lot of fun to roar around in, but for long trips, give me an A8.
#474 of 1507 lazura (and anyone else) by jmpatterson
Dec 28, 2001 (1:19 pm)
Like you, I am running into the red tape here in Charlotte, NC. Trying to get the dealer to give you the details on how they derive their total numbers is like pulling teeth!However, here's the best deal they are willing to do until 12/31 on a 2002 X5 3.0 in stock (or can be located):
Residual - 63% (3 yr. 15K)
Money Factor - .0019
$2000 above "hard costs" (dealer's invoice)
Fees- $300 (MACO), $600 (PAC), $725 (lease acquistion)
Bottom line: $634/mo. with $1,763 at signing
If anyone has any feedback on this, I certainly would appreciate it.
#475 of 1507 RE: Lazura by dermdoc1
Dec 28, 2001 (4:26 pm)
The money factor and residual are as I have been quoted in Southern California. $2000 over invoice sounds good. Which options did you choose for your vehicle, and what was the invoice price?Thanks
#476 of 1507 jmpatterson by lazura
Dec 28, 2001 (4:53 pm)
The BMW dealer is trying to squeeze even more profit out of you. First of all, the lease acquisition fee is $525 (direct quote from BMW Financial Services), not $725. Also, I'm not sure what the MACO and PAC fees are, but I'm assuming these are dealer prep or advertising fees. You should refuse to pay any dealer prep fees and advertising fees are negotiable. Also, go to the site below to enter your lease numbers to arrive at the payment amount to compare to the dealer.#477 of 1507 Luxury tax ? by ttc136
Dec 29, 2001 (5:59 am)
Anyone know whether vehicle buyer has to pay so called "luxury tax" on purchasing a vehicle more than certain value, say 38,000 ?I live in Oregon, and don't know whether it applies or not.
Can someone point out a light?
is there any website has this info ?
thanks!
#478 of 1507 Reply to luxury tax by jmpatterson
Dec 29, 2001 (8:57 am)
Since this is the site for the X5, I'm assuming you're asking about an X5? If so, there is no luxury tax on SUV/SAVs (according to the BMW dealership) because the IRS (believe it or not) does not consider X5s "luxury vehicles" but "utilitiy" vehicles.#479 of 1507 Price increases on Jan 1 by lazura
Dec 29, 2001 (3:45 pm)
I stopped by my local BMW dealer today to order an X5, and he informed me that BMW is raising all the X5 invoice prices starting on Jan 1, 2002. Does anyone know if this is correct or is the dealer trying to squeeze more profit out of me with this tactic? For example, the dealer informed me that the 3.0i base invoice will increase from $355170 to $35560. Also, the option packages are also going to increase. The dealer also said that the MSRP may not change, just the invoice prices, which of course if not true, is another way to squeeze the consumer. Just want to make sure my dealer is on the up and up..#480 of 1507 lasura by jmpatterson
Dec 30, 2001 (8:06 am)
This is correct (or at least what I have been told by a reliable source) - the invoice price is going up 1% but the MSRP is staying the same. This is why I am going in tomorrow (12/31/01) and place an order for a 2002.BTW, if you don't mind me asking, were you able to get the price you wanted or did you have to concede? Email me (MikePatterson
carolina.rr.com) or call me - I have a few questions for you off-line if you don't mind.
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