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BMW X5, SUV
Dec 26, 2001 (11:58 pm)
I am trying to sell a friend's X5 4.4 in Southern CA. He moved out of the country and I offered to help him sell the car and get a few more bucks than he could get on a wholesale basis.
Even though I am an autobroker of new cars, I am not trying to solicit any of you. Just want feedback.
Car is listed for $41,900 which appears to be lower than most used X5s out there. Would like to sell for $41,000. Here are the vitals: 2000 X5 4.4 in Pearl Beige with Pastel Leather. Activity Pkg., Xenons, Premium Sound, In-dash CD, Sunroof. Mileage is high at 35,000. I realize there are some negatives but it is a great car. There has been no serious activity. Car is in perfect condition. What am I missing here? Thanks for your feedback.
#467 of 1507 bst00 - I agree
Dec 27, 2001 (7:29 am)
I agree with you in some respects. I recently bought a 4.4 sport, came out of an Audi A8. I miss the sporty, yet supple ride of my A8, the amazing acceleration, and the subtlety of the big sedan. I like my X5, drive it hard (9k miles since 9/25) and enjoy some of it's "SUV" like abilities (I like it's handling a lot more than my wife's ML430), great exhaust note, good looks, but am not in love with it. I may not be an SUV guy either.
Dec 27, 2001 (7:12 pm)
I am a SUV guy! I love the the higher seating height and the ability to get through almost anything, but I long for a little more performance. I was actually thinking of giving my Land Rover to my wife and getting either an X5 4.4 with sport pkg or the A8. I know they are two totally different vehicles, but since you have had both what is your opinion? Also, is the sport pkg extra harsh in town, I live in Chicago where our roads are full of pot holes? Thanks.
Dec 27, 2001 (7:14 pm)
Sorry my last post was for bertram60.
#470 of 1507 BMW X5 3.0 vs Cadillac Escalade AWD
Dec 27, 2001 (9:25 pm)
In the next couple of weeks, I am buying/leasing either the BMW X5 3.0 or Cadillac Escalade AWD.
I have gathered from reading countless reviews the following strengths and weaknesses of each SAV/SUV.
-passenger and cargo space
Any feeback is appreciated, especially from any owner/lessee who considered these vehicles. I
welcome all comments.
#471 of 1507 RE: Used BMW X5 4.4
Dec 27, 2001 (10:42 pm)
I believe your asking price is too high. The 2001 X5 was offered with $2500 dealer cash and .00195 lease rate. That translates into a similar equipped 2001 model with a selling price for around $46000 brand new ($1000 dealer profit since it is year end model). And the low lease rate helps with a lower monthly payment.
You are essentially offer a 2000 model with 35000 miles on it that is only 10 percent off a 2001 brand new model. If you ask me, you should take another $6000 off and I might consider it.
Dec 28, 2001 (7:12 am)
I have the 4.4i with sport package and 19" wheels. The ride is not harsh but very solid. Made 4 trips to San Diego from Las Vegas in the past 8 weeks and hit some very bad Calif. roads. Can't imagine taking any other vehicle on that long trip.
The wife and I also have a '98 Vette and a '00 4x4 Silverado so we wanted a firm ride with great handling.
Test drive a sport package before you buy though.
Dec 28, 2001 (9:56 am)
The ride height is one real advantage to the X5, and as I live in a flood zone, it was one of the reasons for switching to a higher vehicle (I couldn't bear to take my A8 through 2' to 3' of water in the roads, although I have had to do it). The utility of the truck also exceeds that of the Audi (not by much though). I have equated the ride of the 4.4 sport more to that of a Porsche, as it's handling is very good, no lean or sway, and the ride is very firm, but not really harsh (although I might worry about it in extreme cold if we had that weather). The two vehicles are almost diametrically opposed. The X5 screams to be noticed, has a very raspy, sporty exhaust, and is a very high profile vehicle (IMO) as compared to the subtle (albeit dated) looks of the A8 and the pure silence of the car. Materials in the A8 (interior and exterior) are by far superior in quality to that of the BMW. Fit and finish are flawless and acceleration is amazing (especially when you consider size and weight). My car had warm weather package (insulated glass, and solar sunroof) which made it silent inside that car at double the posted speed limits. One of my biggest adjustment was actually hearing the motor and road noise in the X5.
I loved the fact that the Audi was such a low profile car (i de-badge all my cars),and a relatively rare sedan (2,500 per year total production with 1/3 of that coming to the US) capable of triple digit speeds with very little drama, amazing grip, and the very best materials inside.
Had my dealer not tried to close out his model year with a bang (raping me in the process), had the right model (S8) and color combination been available, i would have bought a new S8 from them instead of the X5.
I do not regret buying the BMW and enjoy the truck a lot, but it's no love affair, my heart was stolen by the Audi, and when the new version of the A8 debuts in '03 i will probably switch back.
The BMW is a lot of fun to roar around in, but for long trips, give me an A8.
#474 of 1507 lazura (and anyone else)
Dec 28, 2001 (1:19 pm)
Like you, I am running into the red tape here in Charlotte, NC. Trying to get the dealer to give you the details on how they derive their total numbers is like pulling teeth!
However, here's the best deal they are willing to do until 12/31 on a 2002 X5 3.0 in stock (or can be located):
Residual - 63% (3 yr. 15K)
Money Factor - .0019
$2000 above "hard costs" (dealer's invoice)
Fees- $300 (MACO), $600 (PAC), $725 (lease acquistion)
Bottom line: $634/mo. with $1,763 at signing
If anyone has any feedback on this, I certainly would appreciate it.
Dec 28, 2001 (4:26 pm)
The money factor and residual are as I have been quoted in Southern California. $2000 over invoice sounds good. Which options did you choose for your vehicle, and what was the invoice price?