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Re: Brand New 2007 X5 Honeymoon Is Over! [thstone] by tcn2k
Apr 04, 2007 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: thstone (Apr 04, 2007 7:59 pm)

I totally agree with you. As helpful as this site is, most complaint posters are merely here for a day in search for a place to vent or a place to find an answer. Majority of folks who have non-trouble cars don't come here. Then there are the regular who checks this board weekly that understands this delima.
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Re: Brand New 2007 X5 Honeymoon Is Over! [ms09] by tidester HOST
Apr 04, 2007 (11:20 pm)
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Replying to: ms09 (Apr 04, 2007 7:58 am)

Guys why don't u admit it bmw are trouble cars...
 
I noticed that you haven't said anything about your own specific experiences with BMW. Some might interpret your challenge as meaning they should admit to something you imagined.
 
But, seriously, if you check the discussions of any of the other vehicles you're looking at you'll find owners who have serious problems with theirs. We certainly wouldn't conclude that "all models are trouble cars."
 
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WRONG ON THE 580K Produced Stat by cioccabmw
Apr 05, 2007 (8:42 am)
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Last year BMW produced a total of roughly 290,000 vehicles for the north american market. The full capacity of the Spartinsburg plant may be 500,000 vehicles for the entire year not for 5 months. Every car produced has a bad percentage. Consumer reports rated porsche the most reliable car built for 2006. They way the measure this is problems per 100 cars. Out of 100 Porsche had 92 problem free cars. That still leaves 8 bad ones. Someone has to get the bad ones. What makes a great manufacture is when they do the right thing, much BMW did with the 2002 7 series. The problem is many clients over inflate there issues and do not give the manufacture a chance to fix it. When you buy a new home do you have the oppurtunitty to return for nail pops? No.
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hi by ms09
Apr 05, 2007 (9:12 am)
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Guys u still wanna argue after reading guys buying new x5 and the brand new car goes dead in the middle of the road did u guys not read what (apbtlvrx4) said and what (freddyb) said??? But i have notice 1 thing which i want to say honestly i think whenever bmw or any other manufacture make a car i would say not all r the same some have defaults and some don't....(tidester) regarding to your message no i don't have a bmw and i don't have any experience with it... but my cousin does he owns a bmw 7 series since abt 4 years and well he hasn't had a single problem with it... But i know some other friends whos car is always in the garage
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hi again by ms09
Apr 05, 2007 (9:14 am)
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I THINK ALL OF YOU HERE ARE BMW CAR FANS ,,, SO U GUYS WOULD NEVER AGREE THAT BMW HAS ANY PROBLEMS THATS MY OPINION AND THATS WHAT I THINK... NO OFFENSE GUYS...
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Re: hi again [ms09] by cioccabmw
Apr 05, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: ms09 (Apr 05, 2007 9:14 am)

Actually I think BMW does have problems but what I am saying is so does every other brand out there. The most reliable car company still has 8% of total vehicles produced are problematic.
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Re: WRONG ON THE 580K Produced Stat [cioccabmw] by anon3
Apr 05, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: cioccabmw (Apr 05, 2007 8:42 am)

To follow on what cioccabmw wrote and for people who obsess over consumer reports ratings... they calculate an average of problems per new car model across large numbers manufactured. So Porsche averages .82 problems per new vehicle. Lexus may have .9 problems. BMW may average something like 1.4 problems depending on the model. It boils down to the fact that statistically you are likely to experience at least 1 problem with any of these new vehicles. (You're certainly not going to have .82 problems.) So what's the difference?
 
You're likely to have a problem or two with any vehicle that you buy. New cars are becoming so reliable that a couple problems per new vehicle on average will earn a manufacturer a below average rating. That is pretty damned good when you consider the complexity of modern cars.
 
And so what if your BMW does have a problem? Get it fixed for free along with your free oil change and free wiper blades while you drive a free loaner car. Then go enjoy the vehicle.
 
And for those who say only complainers and the unhappy post on these forums... I have had 5 new X5s since August of 2001. The first one, BMW's first ever SUV and a brand new model built in a brand new plant in SC, had a three minor problems that were fixed under warranty. After that, these X5s were completely reliable. I've been driving a 2007 X5 4.8i for 5 months with no problems. I am extremely happy with their reliability. (Now ask me about my 2002 745i... that's a different story for another day.)
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Re: Brand New 2007 X5 Honeymoon Is Over! [tcn2k] by apbtlvrx4
Apr 05, 2007 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: tcn2k (Apr 04, 2007 9:24 pm)

And I totally agree with "thstone". I found this site because I was looking for a place to vent and see if others had similar problems. This is the first time I've ever blogged or engaged in an ongoing chat on the internet. I have a feeling I will keep coming back. I do LOVE the car despite the problems. BTW, I've had is 2.5 months now. Today, the "low oil" indicator light came on and I had to add a quart. This seems kind of early in the life of this vehicle to me but maybe it is because I live in the dessert (Palm Springs), drive a lot, drive fast, and drive aggressively. Nevertheless, I thought this car was designed to handle this type of driving. All-in-all, I have high hopes that these problems I'm having are not typical and will end soon after a little more breakin. My screen name stands for "american pit bull lover times four" and my four pits LOVE this car! So I'm keeping it.
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Re: Brand New 2007 X5 Honeymoon Is Over! [apbtlvrx4] by anon3
Apr 05, 2007 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: apbtlvrx4 (Apr 05, 2007 6:14 pm)

Not sure if the oil usage is a sign of a problem in your particular engine, but I can tell you that BMW engines have historically used oil, especially in more extreme driving conditions. I asked one of the senior mechanics at the BMW Performance Center about oil usage (as he was showing us the mechanical design of the M5's engine.) He said they could design an engine that uses little or no oil, but there would be a performance trade off. I've found that all of my BMWs have used oil.
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Re: WRONG ON THE 580K Produced Stat [anon3] by ms09
Apr 16, 2007 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: anon3 (Apr 05, 2007 5:59 pm)

So whats the 745i story????

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