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Re: kendo77 [kendo77] by loosenut
Oct 04, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: kendo77 (Oct 04, 2009 6:35 am)

glad to hear it!,and thrilled one of my babelings helped someone..
-yes,jeeps are "ruff -and-ready",all gears and steel.!
-and "babe" is a great name for her..with a word of caution..if you start bragging about her-that's when they break down,usually with one of those "mystery" ailments..
-so,the "cure" is -every now and again,curse her just a bit-kick her in the bumper-somewhere it's not gonna dent,and she'll run forever..start talking good about it,and you-and your mate-may end up using "shoe leather express"(rofl)..best of luck with babe..sounds like you got a good one..(slap-boink!)-to her..
p.s;
if it's been setting that long,change the axle grease,and the transfer case oil..show it SOME love?!..
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Defogger stopped working by ryan99
Oct 05, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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Hi All, I am looking for a little advice with my rear window defogger. I have a 99 Cherokee limited with heated mirrors and my rear defogger quit on me. I am trying to fix it myself but like most people my time is limited. So far I have found that the switch is good (tried a different one,) the relay is good and there is power to the switch (checked with a multi meter) The fuses are also intact. I can hear the relay click on and off when i press the switch, but no amber indicator lamp and no warmth on the glass. Today I checked the wires at the hatch and didn't see any broken wires and also the drivers mirror. Does anybody know of any common fail items for this or common short circuit spots? I have a repair manual that explains how to test the instrument panel with a multi meter and that is the next step unless anyone has any advice. Thanks, Ryan
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by ryan99
Oct 05, 2009 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 05, 2009 5:03 pm)

also the grid looks to be in good shape but no power at the grid..
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by paule
Oct 05, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm)

If you don't have an amber indicator lamp at the switch, I would pull the switch back out and put your multimeter on both sides of the switch to confirm it is working. Also check the "upstream" side of the switch with one lead with the other lead to ground (I'm assuming this is a positive fired switch but it may be ground fired which would mean you would need to do the opposite. A better option is to remove the fuse and just do a continuity check across the switch terminals which would confirm if it's good or not.
Other than that, I'd start chasing wires after confirming the switch is good and you do not have power at the rear grid (one lead to the wire coming into the grid; the other one to ground.
If the switch is good, the likely culprit is where the wire goes into the hatch from the body itself.
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by garry7
Oct 05, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 05, 2009 5:05 pm)

change your fuses,just 'cos a fuse looks good, doesn't mean it is good,I have been caught before with this same problem
 
Cheers
 
Gary07
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by loosenut
Oct 09, 2009 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 05, 2009 5:03 pm)

use the "ohmn" setting,and test the rear window grid..
-you should get resistance from the two terminals at the glass(a complete circut)..
-next,see if you get any power at the window..then,check the ground side..(that's the one that always got me stuck!)
--if the amber light isn't coming on-it could just be the amber light-if the switch checks out ? !..check and see if the amber light gets power,then check it's ground..
--electrical problems are some of the hardest things to diagnose,and with cars getting more complicated-it ain't gonna get any easier ! !-especially when we get-(shudder. ! )-electric cars! !..that's gonna be a LOT of fun! !
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Re: Defogger stopped working [loosenut] by ryan99
Oct 10, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: loosenut (Oct 09, 2009 5:51 pm)

Thanks for the replys everybody. Hey loosenut, there is continuity at the grid but no power. there is power at the switch and continuity in the switch, no amber light in two different switchs that test fine. Everything checks out and I am left to think there is a problem with the instrument panel down where the relay is. What am I looking for at the ground side of the window? How do I check ground at the switch? I took apart the rear hatch interior panel and looked at the ground and hot wire to the glass and all appeared fine. I'm at a loss trying to figure this out...
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by loosenut
Oct 10, 2009 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 10, 2009 5:00 pm)

using the meter,and a handy ground-back at the window,see if there is power..if there is,you have a bad ground-check the other side of the glass-trace it down,and clean the contact-making shure your ground is good..
--if you can dig up a L-O-N-G- TEST LEAD,TRY PUTTING STRAIGHT POWER TO THE GLASS-ON THE POSITIVE SIDE....(MAYBE THEN YOUR AMBER LIGHT WILL LIGHT?)--sorry-caps lock stuck..
--all this sounds like you've got a bad relay..unplug the relay,and with the test wire,unplug it from the glass-gently,-then,go back to where the relay plugs in,and see if there is power at the "output" point,if not,wire is broken somewhere..i have run a extra wire-tucking it in,so it doesn't look bad-just to save trying to trace where a broken wire is..
--have you tried replacing the relay??--if you hear it "clicking",have someone turn it on and off,while you trace it by ear ! ?..
--no power at the glass means a bad relay usually..try the simpler things first,then go for the more complicated..after all,it's just a 12v circut-but it pulls a pretty heavy load..
--if you get it working,and find a few bars in the grid that aren't heating-they sell a conductive-copper colored paint-used to repair defrosters..
best of luck!
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Re: Defogger stopped working [ryan99] by loosenut
Oct 10, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: ryan99 (Oct 10, 2009 5:00 pm)

resistance at the glass is good,means you've got a circut..to check for ground,ohm meter on a ground to ground wire..while there,see if power side has ground..if so,theres a short..
-the relay has TWO sourses of power..one to activate the coil(the clicking noise),then-and where your problem may be-is a thirty-to-fifty amp fuse that would put power to the window..check owners manual,or the fuse diagram-grouped with things like the heavy fuse for the a/c,and see if that's the trouble..it just might be !
lots of luck!
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Re: Defogger stopped working [loosenut] by ryan99
Oct 11, 2009 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: loosenut (Oct 10, 2009 8:06 pm)

Thanks for all the help! Trying to keep it simple I rechecked fuses in the power distribution center under the hood and found a blown 30 amp fuse titled HBL. It didn't look blown but it was. popped in a new one and I am good to go! Not sure why it blew though...

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