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#8129 of 8199 Hello all, looking to be a proud M-Class owner
Aug 13, 2008 (12:47 am)
My apologies, i seem to be in the wrong thread, my question is pretty general as far as Maintenence, dis reguard the model mentioned below, thanks.
Hello all, im looking for a newer car. I have been eyeing the 2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML320, i have seen quite a few with what looks like an incredibly low price, Prices ranging from $8000 to $12000.
I absolutely love the look of this vehicle, but i have no idea how to go about looking for one used.
Before asking anything specific about this vehicle post what my main concern is first off.
Main concern, will i be able to keep up the maintenance on this vehicle given my current Earnings. I earn roughly 38000 a year and live alone, if i had to guess how much money will be on hand for normal wear and tear i would have to say approximately 2000 - 4000 a year.
Is it possible for me to keep up with that amount, i love this vehicle, but if keeping it in excellent running condition means i will likely be spending alot more i may have to reconsider.
This is all for now as depending on the answer i may not need to bug you guys much more.
Thanks in advance, any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.
#8130 of 8199 Re: Hello all, looking to be a proud M-Class owner [bobbi_digitali]
Sep 13, 2008 (5:58 am)
It is a rainy Sat. morning, and I occasionally read these threads, so here's my response to you bobbi digitali:
1) See if you can buy an extended service contract whether from the dealer
or online. If you buy it online, that won't kick in for 30 days and 1,000 miles.
2) My rule of thumb is for every 1,000 miles that you drive expect to spend
$ 100 for routine upkeep and repairs on this or any other moderate luxury/premium type vehicle. The service and upkeep on this should be cheaper than on the Porsche SUV.
3) If the one you're buying has Dunlop tires (which were standard on mine), buy
a new set of some other brand with a UTQG rating of over 500. The Dunlop tires
get only about 20,000 to 30,000 miles. You also must buy the exact same tire
for all 4 tires so you can't mix brands such as Goodyear with Michelin because
of the AWD. It has to be the same brand, the same tire.
4) Brakes seem to wear fast. Dealer recommends that rotors always be replaced.
An independent shop told me "mostly yes, but not always" on rotors. Brakes are not covered on extended service plans.
5) Oil changes: Fortunately, only every 10,500 miles. Simple oil change at MB
dealer is about $ 200, major oil change next 10.5K miles from MB dealer is about $400. Why so high? The MB dealer checks everything plus using Mobil1 synthetic for I think between 7 and 8 quarts. I got a quote from an independent dealer about 20% to 25% less, so I'll probably try the independent next time, since I'm out of regular warranty.
6) I have avoided 2 possible accidents since I've had my ML350 that I would not
have been able to avoid with my prior SUV vehicle. 2 separate people pulled out on
me from a side street when I had the right of way on the same stretch of highway
and I was able to take evasive action to avoid a collision (On one I had to cross
the center line to avoid an elderly woman driving a van who was making a left hand turn but she was blocking oncoming traffic).
7) I don't know where you live but (assuming that you have the right set of tires)
these MLs are great in snow. If I lived in the South, I likely would not buy an ML
nor any other 4 WD/allwheel drive/SUV, with the price of gas what it is today.
8) The power steering hose has a tendency to "pop out". It happened to me
once while backing out of the driveway and was covered under original warranty.
9) MLs are great for long highway trips.
10) I do have some other mechanical issues with my ML, which my extended
service plan mostly covered.
Hope this helps you. I suspect that like other SUVs that there are some real bargains now available if you shop around such as the Edmunds used vehicles list.
#8131 of 8199 Re: Used 2002 ML320 with 132K miles [kandygirl]
Oct 03, 2008 (5:21 am)
They are telling you utter nonsense. I have two 80's Mercedes diesel sedans (85 300D and 83 300SD) which are considered by many to be the most durable cars ever built. However, just like any other car, they require maintenance as time goes on. Rubber parts in the suspension crack and wear out, timing chains stretch, rubber hoses deteriorate, plastic clips disintegrate, ac. compressors and vacuum actuators wear out. These cars may last a long time but they will not do so without investing money in repairs and maintenance. Same holds for the ML class or any other Benz cars. Even more so, because new vehicles have a lot of electronic components.
#8132 of 8199 '04 ML 350
Oct 03, 2008 (5:27 am)
I was looking at a used ML 350 with about 34k miles on the clock. It drove fine, except when the engine was cold, it stumbled several times (RPMs went down) as I stopped at an intersection). The engine subsequently recovered, but for a moment it seemed like it was going to stall. The fuel level in the vehicle was very low at the time. Is this stumbling normal for a cold engine? It did not do it after warming up.
Does this vehicle have a 5 speed transmission? What would be a fair price for this vehicle in excellent condition? I just saw one similar to this one sold on eBAy for $ 15,400 with even lower mileage. I am not sure what features were optional on this model, but this one has navigation, sunroof, leather seats, and heated power seats,
#8133 of 8199 ML 350
Oct 06, 2008 (2:29 pm)
I actually have an 03 ml 350, the rough idle you described id because the person used a lower than premium grade gas., trying to save a few $$'s....
i am also selling mine $15k.... i live 1.5 miles away from work, but it has 67k ., dont need it anymore.,
you have to be carefull when shopping and comparing prices.... benz is known for its packages., so while 2 identical benz will be selling for $1-2k appart., check the options., for example i had a buyer call me claiming that he could get the SAME car for $13k., so i said go ahead., bring it to me and ill give you $500 if we have the same options...
his did not have dual power seats, nor did it have teleaid, it was teleaid "ready"... it also did not have the little thingy near the rear view mirror that tells you how much mpg you are getting or how many miles you have before you go empty., nor did his side mirror turn down when he put it in reverse... couple of other things that i cant remember.... and oh., it had an obvious cover up paint job to either make it look newer or to hide damage...
all in all., its a great car,. maintenance isnt to bad., ill be replacing a window regulator this weekend (myself)
it has power,. it responds when you hit the accelerator., its a beast of a suv.,
#8134 of 8199 Re: Hello all, looking to be a proud M-Class owner [bobbi_digitali]
Oct 06, 2008 (2:34 pm)
not sure if you already bought your benz., but...
"2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML320, i have seen quite a few with what looks like an incredibly low price, Prices ranging from $8000 to $12000"
if thats the price range you are looking at., then dont get a 200 ml320,. get a 2003+ ml350., the 320 is under powered, ., you can get a 350 for $1000 more than a 320!
#8135 of 8199 Re: '04 ML 350 [p100]
Oct 07, 2008 (5:04 pm)
My 04 ran a little rough this morning at the first traffic light about one-half
mile away from home. While stopped at the light, I shifted it back
to park, revved it a litte, and then back to drive. It ran normal the rest of the
day. The fuel level was between 1/4th and 1/2 of the tank. I've always used premium since I've had it.
Yes. I think the 06s went to the 7 speed.
Prices are a little tricky. For example, check out the ML 350s priced in
the Chicago area with between 35K to 50K miles. Their retail asking prices
vary from $ 15,000 to $ 21,000 at dealers (obviously if certified at a MB dealer
they're higher). $ 6,000 is a large differential when it should be more like $ 1,000
to $ 2,000 apart for this vehicle regardless of options.
Navigation was optional on the ML 350 and standard on the ML 500.
Running boards were optional. 3rd row fold down seats were optional.
I've tried to be objective and hope that this is helpful.
Also bear in mind that some dealers employees strip "small" stuff out of
these vehicles. When I got mine used there were no floor mats, the mercedes
shifter ball with emblem was gone, even the first aid kit was gone and the salesman
took his CD placement holder from his demo and put his in my vehicle as mine
was also missing. The gas tank holds just over 22 gallons so try to get the
seller to fill that although you may only get a $ 20 gas card (Mine was $ 10
gas card but that was the good old days when premium was $ 2.29 a gallon).
Also, try to get both keys. The dealership had to go on a hunt for the second
key which took about a half-hour extra til they found it. Lastly, this has a space
save spare underneath the back. Some dealers also hijack the space saver
so bring a drop cloth with to get underneath to make sure that it's there.
#8136 of 8199 Dunlop or Pirelli ?? for ML-320 2002
Oct 21, 2008 (10:45 pm)
I currently have the Pirelli but the dealer recommended the Dunlop....comments,suggestions ??
Also- what are the advantages of getting 4 tires at the dealer Vs. Big `O` tires ,etc..
Thanks in advance for your input,
#8137 of 8199 Re: Dunlop or Pirelli ?? for ML-320 2002 [alex_russo]
Oct 26, 2008 (4:11 am)
Very timely question. Dunlop tires on MLs have no mileage warranty.
Mine lasted 25000 to 27000 miles, and I had several blowouts in
2 or 3 of those tires so the Dunlops on the vehicle weren't all in the
same shape. Two were still good, 1 was OK but starting to go and the
last was completely shot.
Last week, I finally decided to get all 4 Dunlops replaced with
Continental Cross Contact LX. These have a 680 TQ rating
with 65K warranty. These cost about $ 800 for everything with install,
replacement certificates, taxes and balancing (before modest trade-in
discount on the remaining good Dunlop tires). But, these Continental
tires should last 5 or 6 years (and hopefully no more blowouts).
Continental is running a GPS Navigation unit promotion through 11/02/08
so I'll also be getting a Navigation system in the mail for buying the 4 tires.
Buying tires at the dealership means that you'll likely pay more
than at every tire store. My tires were purchased from Discount Tires
but Tire Rack may also be feasible for you.
#8138 of 8199 98 Chev Astro van doesn't pump fuel! HELP!
Nov 02, 2008 (3:02 pm)
I have a 98 Chev Astro van. It acted by it was running out of gas the other day, I pulled over, it didn't die. I took gas cap off, put it back on and vehicle ran fine for about 70-80 more miles! Got it home okay. The next day, the vehicle started okay. I had decided to change the fuel filter just in case. After changing it, the vehicle would not start. The fuel pump is not pumping fuel and the vehicle won't start now. I can pour fuel into the throttle body and it will start, but won't stay running because it is not pumping fuel. Does anyone have a clue what is going on?