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#7933 of 8199 I traded too yesterday!!!
Dec 07, 2005 (6:52 pm)
Markjenn, what did you get?
I picked up a 2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE, Java Black Pearlescent with Alpaca beige leather, Cold package, Heavy duty package... added a wood dash and thick black rubber mats on all three rows.
I liked my 2002 ML500 (48,700 miles) but it was just about out of warranty and I was ready for something else.
The Land Rover has a 4 yr. 50K warranty that incudes all maintenance... My ML had that but Mercedes doesn't offer that anymore. Also, my local Mercedes dealer doesn't offer loaner cars. I made sure that the Land Rover did and my salesman said "sure".
I hope my luck with the Land Rover is good, I just didn't want a Mercedes this time, especially, for the lack of included service and no loaner cars.
#7934 of 8199 Re: I traded too yesterday!!! [mark156]
Dec 07, 2005 (10:36 pm)
I took a breather from pricey and fussy Euro makes and went with the milk toast SUV: Honda Pilot.
#7935 of 8199 Re: I traded too yesterday!!! [markjenn]
Dec 08, 2005 (3:51 am)
Thank you very much for your response. It gives me some good insights. Unfortunately, I did succumb to the "we won't release your car to you because it is not safe" argument from the dealer, and paid the nearly-$1,500.00 cost.
Good luck with your new purchase.
#7936 of 8199 The ML brakes
Dec 08, 2005 (6:33 am)
John, the same thing happened to me with my 2002 ML500. I took my ML in the shop for service and they told me that my rear brakes were needing replacement; I had 18,000 miles on it. Since I was about to go on a driving trip, I let them do it at a cost of about $250. Apparently, it didn't need rotors.
Then at about 26,000 miles, while I had the ML in for service, they wanted to replace the front brakes, I said no. I figured that is what the "brake pad" replacement light is for.
Well, what do you know, I waited until 46,000 miles to replace the front brakes (and rear). The light never came on. The service tech couldn't believe I never had the pads replaced. He asked me if I had them replaced by another shop and I said no. I told him that I was waiting for the light to come on. He didn't like that.
Since the dealer, in my opinion, tried to make me spend money WAY to early, I decided when the time came, they would NOT get my business. I had a private shop do it, replacing all pads, rotors and brake fluid at the cost of $1,100.
Next time, just wait until the light comes on. Always question the service guy, they are not their for your interest. Sure, they can be nice and all, but hold on to your wallet!
#7937 of 8199 Re: I traded too yesterday!!! [johnp5]
Dec 08, 2005 (9:13 am)
John, I did the same thing the first time the dealer recommended new brakes. I think it was at 20K. No big deal.
They are very subtle with their tactics to get you to perform excessive service - they'll have the service techs write things in the work order in all caps like "CAR IS NOT CURRENTLY SAFE TO DRIVE", which to a new owner is pretty intimindating. And who wants to have a service record for the vehicle which shows you ignored such advice?
In their weak defense, they will argue that the car is serviced so infrequently that if the pads are more than half worn, there is some risk that they may be under spec before the next service visit. This reflects an attitude of "Cost is unimportant to our customers and the inconvenience of having to schedule an extra service visit between routine visits is." Which is probably true for some, but not me.
#7938 of 8199 Re: I traded too yesterday!!! [markjenn]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 09, 2005 (7:33 am)
I wonder if a complaint to your local consumer affairs office or attorney general is in order. My guess is that a mechanic in the next block would ok the car to drive for another few thousand miles, even if the brakes are nearing their expected life.
This tactic has an odor of bill padding to it.
I wonder what their response would be if you said, ok. let's tow it to Midas and get a second opinion?
#7940 of 8199 Re: fyi [steve_]
Dec 10, 2005 (12:47 pm)
If it's 200 inches long, then Edmunds ought to note that it's a fancy competitor to the Suburban/Expedition, not to the Range Rober/Cayenne.
#7941 of 8199 Re: Question Re: ML [atr7277]
Dec 11, 2005 (3:30 pm)
Stop thinking about it, or your dreams may turn into nightmares. Or don't listen to me, just get a copy of Consumer Reports and take a look at their auto issue and the reliability of the ML. You should consider something else after reading what they say.
#7942 of 8199 Re: ML Diesel's coming? [rockypaul]
Dec 11, 2005 (3:34 pm)
There are NO diesels in the pipeline for the forseeable future. 3.5L V6, or 5.0 V8 - a higher performance V8 is due, but certainly not an economy model.