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Mercedes-Benz M-Class, Mercedes-Benz ML55 AMG, SUV
#7752 of 8199 Everything was going so good....
May 20, 2005 (8:30 am)
I dropped my 2002 ML500 off at the dealer yesterday for some minor adjustments ..
I now have almost 41,000 miles on the truck.
1) gas pedal has become "sticky" again.
2) a chirping noise comes from the steering column/dash area when I turn the key. Happens only on cool mornings.... it's not the belt reminder or key buzzer. They ordered a part for that.
3) The windshield washer fluid has started to leak out.
Because I am about 2,300 miles from my "B" service, they are going to perform that service.
They also informed me that I need new brakes front and back. They also said that I must have new rotors installed all of the way around and that my rotors cannot be "machined". The service guy told me that ML's usually need to be replaced at every brake job. The total cost of the brake job.... $1,100.
I told the service guy (not the one I had before, this is a new guy) not to do the brakes because at 18,000 miles, they told me my back brakes were going out so "like an idiot" I said OK ($250), well, I now have 23,000 miles on the back brakes and they are not out yet, but close. I told the service guy that I think they replaced the back brakes too soon.
When he was looking up my records, he said that the previous service guy told me that I needed new brakes for the front at 26,000 miles. I told him that I told the previous guy NOT to do it. So, I am needing them now but the "brake pad warning light" has not come on. I told him what is the light for if we need to change pads before the light comes on?
I also asked him why did they tell me that I needed new front brakes at 26,000 miles if I'm at 41,000 and I'm still on the same brakes. He asked me if I had them changed somewhere else, I said no. He couldn't believe I had the same brakes and said most people change them at 20,000 miles.
I called the service shop where I take my antique car (they work on all types/makes/models/years) and to give me a price on replacing the brakes on the ML. They are at $1,080 for the same job. But, the indepentent shop guy says that ML rotors can be turned but he would let me know if I have enough allowance for it to be done.
I have had good luck with this shop in the past. Even though they aren't much cheaper than my Mercedes dealer, I am NOT going to reward my dealer for trying to PUSH expensive service jobs on me. I'm taking it to the private shop next week.
(stepping off my soap box).... I feel better now. Mark
#7753 of 8199 Everything else is modified, updated (but the silhouette)
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
May 20, 2005 (3:38 pm)
"And they are platforms for bringing innovations -- things like a seven-speed automatic transmission, a non-traditional gear shifter and headlights that turn when the steering wheel does -- closer to the mainstream luxury market."
Mercedes revamps M-Class for 2006 (Mercury News - sorry, registration required to read the article).
#7754 of 8199 Re: 2006 M-Class [merc1]
May 20, 2005 (9:24 pm)
yes,i have a 2006 ml350.great car-already put 2600 miles.excellent accelaretion,comfort,great sporty looks.bought with the premium package and comfort package.drove to IDAHO from california -- 1500 miles in 2 days--no problems and great comfort.The transmission is smooth and easy to operate.
#7755 of 8199 2006 ml 350
May 20, 2005 (9:57 pm)
i bought the iridium silver with ash interior.the inside lighting in the premium package is great.the accelaration of 268 hp combined with 7 speed transmission is great.The shifts are very smooth and before you realise the speed reaches 80 miles/hr in fraction of time.i love the sporty look.
#7756 of 8199 nilesh, did you say it looked sporty? LOL...just kidding
May 20, 2005 (10:31 pm)
#7757 of 8199 2006 ml350
May 21, 2005 (4:38 am)
yes i did say sporty.Get a closer look at those SUV-s in the market-you will realise this is better than most of them .this one has the power and the look.
#7758 of 8199 2006 M-class Recalled >Already<!
May 21, 2005 (8:56 am)
Fool me once, shame on you ... fool me twice, shame on me.
After all the hype about MB better managing its U.S. suppliers to improve quality, there's a recall on a part that has been the subject of recalls on the previous model?
So if it fails, you lose power steering capability and have to struggle to get the vehicle safely off the road, and then wait for roadside assistance to come out and replace it?
At least 2006 owners don't have to go back to the dealership for this. And realistically the clamp wouldn't fail for some time, as experienced by the previous model owners who had this problem.
A new ~$55k vehicle is felled by a $2 part that's been known to have problems before.
The humiliation continues ...
#7759 of 8199 Re: 2006 ml350 [nilesh]
May 21, 2005 (3:48 pm)
It is obvious that you are loving what you bought but I do not know which SUV's are you comparing with. If you are comparing with Lexus . Fords.. yes it is better.. if you are comparing with Cayenne / FX.. new ML (164) is a korean looking box. It is certainly better drive feel vs. the previous ML (163) but is no match to Cay../ FX
I test drove the new ML 500 but can not figure out what is so great vs. CayS while the pricing certainly is. I have the fortune of owning the Cay S as well as ML 500 (MY 2003) and do know the pros & cons of old ML / new ML & Cayenne.
New ML has not given me any reason to get out of 163 and that is mostly because I do not like the looks. New ML is definitely better drive feel vs. old.. that's all to it's credit but price is way too steep now.
Don't worry about the discussions / arguments. If you are enjoying what you bought, then that's all that matters. I wish you years of driving pleasure and safe driving.
#7760 of 8199 NAV CDs for 2002 ML 500
May 23, 2005 (12:46 pm)
Has anyone used the Subscription service ? Is it worth it ?
I need the New Engaland CD for 2005. Is anyone willing to share ?
#7761 of 8199 Re: Everything was going so good.... [mark156]
May 23, 2005 (7:18 pm)
I have a 2000 ML320 and experienced some of the same problems.
1.) The vehicle was a preowned "certified" by M-B. Well, when I took it for an independent assessment, I went to a local mechanic who races BWMs. He noted that the accelerator was "sticky." Took it to Mercedes, they found that two parts were bad. So much for "certified."
2.) Full engine rebuild at 47,000 miles. High oil consumption.
3.) Your driving habits, tires, terrain, all play a part in brake wear. However, when I was having the dealer do the service, I was pinged on brakes every 15-20K miles. And when I reminded them that the front ones were just changed 3K miles ago, they said, "oh, right...the back ones are bad now." So once again, I went to my local mechanic. Brakes were ok. When he did replace them, he highly recommended replacing the rotors because they are made from a soft compound. Don't risk your life over a few dollars! I use Brembos now. Cheaper cost then MB, and works great. Oh, and he assesses the amount of wear, so I will know when to replace them. Yes, I did the $900 +/- dealer brakes once a year. Now my mechanic does them for less then half that price, and monitors them.
Glad to hear you found a private shop that can service your car. Oh- I got almost 50K out of my last front brakes and rotors. Like I said, there are a lot of factors to consider when it comes to brake life.
Now if I didn't have to replace the gas cap every three years, I would be happy!