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#7449 of 8199 Update - 2002 ML500 by tiger2doll
Jul 19, 2004 (8:09 am)
I've been participating on this forum for a couple of years now. I have noticed that some people are very happy with their cars and some people such as yourself have been unlucky to get the more badly built cars.
My 1999 ML320 which has about 65K miles on it has been mostly trouble free. I have had the usual M-Class problems like power-window switch and shift control module replacement. I want to get a Toyota Landcruiser, but have not had a good reason to sell my ML and take the hit on the depreciation. It has been very reliable all these years.
However, if I had the kind of problems you have been having, I would definitely sell it. Remember the longer you keep it, the more it depreciates and you take a bigger hit when you sell it. If you have a problem car, DO NOT KEEP IT beyond the warranty period, unless you own shares in Diamler Chrysler or their dealers.
I have decided that when I have the first major problem with my 99ML 320, it will be Landcruiser time .
The only gripe I have with Mercedes is their dealer network. Terrible dealers.. Arrogant to boot. They haven't realized that Lexus is the top selling luxury brand in North America.
#7450 of 8199 My 2002 ML500
Jul 20, 2004 (1:07 pm)
I've had my ML500 for 32 months, 29,200 miles, and it has been relatively trouble free. If I remember correctly, I had to have a windshield washer box replaced (defective from supplier), the bi-xenons adjusted downward, a cup holder replace in the back, a light bulb behind the speedometer replaced, an arm rest cover on the console (started to ripple) and an adjustment on the gas peddle (sticky) and finally, the dashboard at the windshield squeaked. I find those to be trivial annoyances.
My ML is very powerful, strong air conditioning, excellent navigational system and my tires are wearing perfectly; looks like I could go to 40,000 pretty easy. The all wheel drive with traction control has gotten me though some rough icy conditions.
Just my .02 worth, Mark
#7451 of 8199 Highest Mileage on ML
Aug 04, 2004 (5:56 am)
Who here has the highest mileage on their ML320?
#7452 of 8199 Lock and Elect System
Aug 05, 2004 (8:49 pm)
Hi All, just join this, and can't wait to post a message. I have a 2000 ML320 purchased in July 2003 with start mark warranty. Love the ride, however, had to visit dealer 5 times less than a year. 3 times now are the same problem, lock and elect system defective. I have contact a lemmon law att and will let them take a look if this SUV is a lemmon. Three times in a row the same problem came back. Anybody has a good advice or maybe having the same problem?
Thanks a lot,
#7453 of 8199 Highest Mileage on ML
Aug 09, 2004 (11:11 am)
67000 on my 1999 ML320.
Few minor issues. Never been stranded or towed in 6 years.
#7454 of 8199 Question for Markjenn
Aug 11, 2004 (7:18 am)
You appear to be very knowledgeable about the ML430. I have a 2000 ML430 and I bought it used through a friend who delivered it to me with 57000 miles. The shift delay on the trans seems to last a long time in the morning. I know that this is a built in feature to heat up the cats, but I have to wait until full temperature is reached even in the SC summer time with overnight temps in the 80's? The book says road speed should override this feature but nothing makes it shift other than 6000 rpm and 200 degrees on the temperature gage..... about a 10 minute ride at 55 mph? Is yours this lazy?????? Once it shifts out then it is perfect all day long???? The dealer says it is normal.
Aug 11, 2004 (8:44 am)
Just took the '03 ML350 in for a list of things to take care of:
1) Transmission hesitation on downshifts (going around corners, etc.)
2) Radio/CD/Tape going to high volume then dropping to nearly nill (only happened a few times over the past couple of months)
3) Throttle cable sticking a bit
4) Low Range light / ETS light staying on a couple of times recently
Item 1 has been an issue since day 1. The valve body has been replaced once before and it was replaced again yesterday but this time things are working as expected! So, finally, after 24K miles it is running like I always thought it should : ) (And like every loaner ML I've driven) The hesitation was not much - say 0.5 second, but when going around a corner it would pretty much coast until it decided I really wanted to accelerate to merge with traffic.
For Item 2 they did some kind of bypass to the Teleaid system which required the removal of the passenger seat to get to the wiring harness they needed to work with. Apparently the radio unit told them it had caused errors and the fix is know to MB - at least for my issue. Thought I'd mention it here for those with this issue.
For Item 3 - did a clean and re-install and it seems better now.
For Item 4 - found fault codes in the computer and they replaced the servo that puts the tranny in low range.
So, all in all, I have things where I want them. Would have liked to have Item 1 fixed 22K miles ago - but I guess I'll take what I can get. The other items only occurred in the last 3-4 months so we'll see if the fixes are "done."
This is really only the third visit to the MB dealer for non-scheduled service over the last 18 months - but still 3 more times than my Dodge Minivan required...
#7456 of 8199 Tranny cutoffs (was ? for MarkJenn)
Aug 11, 2004 (8:51 am)
My ML350 will do this - but only for a few miles of driving. I notice it leaving the neighborhood - but when I get to the next traffic light (about 3 miles away at 50 mph) I don't. So this sounds - to me - excessive. But I'd suspect the tranny to be a bit different for the 500.
Another thought... Do you notice this hesitation when slowing down and then speeding up (like going around a curve) no matter the temperature/length of time driving? If so, you might have the local MB shop reset your thresholds in the module that controls the tranny. Perhaps it has adapted to your friend's way of driving and it needs to learn from a new master : )
#7457 of 8199 Re: Tranny cutoffs (was ? for MarkJenn) [joeindenver]
Aug 11, 2004 (9:27 am)
Thanks for your response. It seems perfectly normal after the warm up period with no other issues. I am a mechanical engineer with years experience working on older vehicles, so maybe I am over reacting to this. I don't trust my local dealer after they tried to replace the rack and pinion when all I needed was to tighten the metal line, so I think I will take it else where for a second opinion. But after months of driving, the temperature seems to be the only variable.
Aug 11, 2004 (9:41 am)
My experience is tha same as joe's. A block or two of delayed upshifts, then normal. The delay is not much either, maybe shifting at 3.5K where it normally would at 2.5K under light throttle.
If yours is revving to 6K on light throttle until reaching full operating temp, then something is wrong, or at least out of adjustment. I'd continue to pester the dealer or try another - you may have to leave the vehicle overnight. I don't think it does the engine any good to be revving this high cold.
Good luck and keep us posted,