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#7360 of 8199 ML350...gardencar
Mar 09, 2004 (5:56 pm)
Gardencar, here are my thoughts on the ML350:
1. Towing is definitely superior to the RX330. You can tow with the Lexus, but not as much as the 5000lb the ML350 can. I personally don't use our Mercedes to tow at all, but maybe others on the M-class board could give their experiences.
2. With respect to reliabilty, we have never had a problem, but we did worry about this issue when we bought the vehicle. The reason we went with the Merc over the RX330 was that the reliability of the 2003 had improved significantly in CR. Also, the 350 is 6-7 yrs into the model cycle, which is enough time for Mercedes to figure out the bugs. The vehicle als comes with satellite standard, which has a mechanic function. Mercedes will come to help you out if there ever was a breakdown. Lastly, we have an outstanding Mercedes dealership and sales rep, who when we bought the vehicle included his personal cell-phone# should any problem arise. (this is not a sales pitch, he has honored this for others we know).
3. Concerning the purchase of a used one with 40,000 miles, this is a tough one. I know my dealership has used ones from 2000-01 with this mileage. If you were to do this, I would stronly suggest a Starmark warranty.
Overall, I love the ml350. My wife is the primary driver, but on trips I drive it a lot. Very safe, satellite, great off-road, yet excellent on-road. Extremely comfortable seats on long trips.
Mar 09, 2004 (10:31 pm)
Thank you very much for taking time out to anwer my questions. I hope you continue to enjoy your ML350. You are probably right about the 7 year cycle. We will consider the ML350 when we are ready to get rid of our Explorer.
Mar 15, 2004 (7:06 am)
Hit 28K miles on my ML320 and the brake sensor is lit- and beeping. Very entertaining….
Dealer quoted the usual- Front brakes and rotors $330 in parts and $270 in labor to install.
I've seen a couple of the postings- and I've gone researching on the web for a better deal on the parts.
How do I determine what the chassis number is?
Which are the OEM brake pads- there seems to be a couple of choices out there.
Plus- we need the rotors. Do we also need to buy the sensor? What parts do we really need to purchase?
Lastly- what goes into the brake job? Do we have to remove the hub to get the rotors off? Should this be much different from a regular brake job? Just curious.
Please let me know if anyone has any insight. Just can't stand to give the dealer so much to pad their pockets.
#7363 of 8199 gas smell in oil after 120k miles
Mar 15, 2004 (8:36 pm)
Any thoughts on what it means if I smell gas on the dipstick in an ML430 with 120,000 (highway) miles? Also sometimes smell gas faintly inside the car after starting it cold. Otherwise nothing seems wrong; oil changed w/ Mobil 1 every 5k miles; spark plugs were changed as per schedule at 100k. Recent fuel pump replacement. Will getting the error codes scanned tell me anything?
Mar 23, 2004 (12:49 pm)
My wife's 2002 ML320 just had a brake job performed at our dealer... was $620(incl tax) for parts and labor. Just under 28K miles. Only f/r pads - no rotors required replacement. You should ensure that you really need rotors. Also, our rear pads were about as worn as the fronts, so be sure to check them.
The sensors are required to activate the wear detector lights on the dash. Would only recommend an authorized MB technician to perform this task.
Mar 24, 2004 (10:15 pm)
While you certainly need the proper experience and tools, there is nothing particularly special about the MB brake wear sensor system, nor the brakes in general. As brake pad replacement goes, the ML is fairly straightforward.
#7366 of 8199 2004 ML 350
Mar 25, 2004 (10:13 am)
I am considering purchasing an ML 350. I am currently torn between the ML and the MDX. Has the reliability of the 2004 improved over the previous years? Thoughts/comments?
Mar 25, 2004 (10:57 pm)
Even Consumer Reports rates the 2003 M-class as "average" in reliability. The 2004's should be as good if not better. Definitely an improvement on previous years.
Mar 25, 2004 (11:36 pm)
I think things have gotten a little better, but I don't think the ML is close to the MDX on reliability, which is top of the heap. Get the ML only if really prefer the MB AND you're willing to put up with an occasional glitch or two every year.
#7369 of 8199 To keep it or trade it
Mar 28, 2004 (6:30 pm)
It's 40K now and I have had so much replaced on this car that I either have a good one now or the stage is set for an on-going saga. I just got the car back from a warranty service and some major stuff got swapped out again. Things like; the driver's seat, several electronic control modules, both fog lights and all 4 wheels! This is an '01 Sport model with wheels that I rarely see around, but when they started to peal after about 2 years, I thought I should complain. To my surprise, they readily replaced all 4 (only the front ones were pealing). I can't help but think that when they called and said I needed REAR brake pads AND rotors, that maybe this car was so expensive for them that they had to 'hit' me for something. The sensors had not yet indicated a problem, but I shelled out the $600 anway, wondering if I would ever be back. The service guy curiously accompanied me to the clerk (to make sure I paid? Or perhaps to pull me back from attacking the clerk upon being given the bottom-line charge for a free warranty check-up?) Yeah, they tried to hit me for tires too and told me there were no other substitutes but the original make(?!) I know there are others, and so do you guys.
Should I trade it? Well, this car is worth as much as it's ever going to be, and I can't believe how little that is according to Kelly Blue Book! This would be easy to figure out if I didn't enjoy driving the ML. But I really do.
Another thing that bothers me was the fact that there were only TWO new MLs in the lot when I took it in for service. Both of them were a light powder blue color I'd never seen before. In the past there have always been many new MLs. This time the majority on the lot were used and most of them were '02s.