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Mercedes-Benz M-Class, Mercedes-Benz ML55 AMG, SUV
#6500 of 8199 Easy to add NAV to ML
Jul 14, 2002 (10:48 am)
This is a plug and play operation. (except fro 2002s' which require some dealer programming)
You pull the MCS from the dash, drop in the NAV module, connect prewired Sat antenna, re-insert NAV. On 2000, you need to install antenna on roof, on 2001, you need to add a splitter under passenger seat. That is all there is to it.
Usually used NAV's and Map CDs can be found on Ebay (under Ebay motors) Search on Navigation, NAV or Mercedes. This is a great add-on to a ML320 that did not originally have the NAV installed.
Jul 15, 2002 (6:48 pm)
Should I buy the ML 430? Is it going to be a maintenance horror story? ML is silver with black leather interior. CD changer, BOSE sound, heated seats, NAV system. 21,000 miles asking price $38,000. What do you guys think?
#6502 of 8199 2001 ML430
Jul 15, 2002 (7:43 pm)
While I can't tell you to buy this or any other vehicle, I can relate my experience with my ML430, is a 99, two years older than the one you are looking at, I have no problems to report other than my front brakes were dragging on rare ocassions, maybe three or four incidents, I took it to the dealer and MB fixed the problem above and beyond of what was necesary, I am still very impressed.
I pull sometimes my boat, a 23 footer (pretty heavy boat) on a tandem axle with no problems and no strain, a particular landing I use is very steep, I like the option of having a deep reduction, it makes the whole affair effortless.
Catastrophic failures are almost unknown in the ML, most problems have been small stuff, a rattle here or there or a switch, etc, things of that nature. If you have a warranty it should take care of a bug here and there, they are not that many and once cured (if any) the vehicle is very trouble free. This horror stories you mention are just that, stories.
Maintenace requierements are no more than any other vehicle, althoug the dealer service is expensive, you can buy your own filters and do your routine maintenance.
After 85K the vehicle is tigth as new and the steering as precise.
#6503 of 8199 Dash squeaks
Jul 17, 2002 (4:13 am)
After running the a/c full blast for over an hour on a scorching day, there appeared a squeak in the dash from near the middle air vents. Sounded like two styrofoam blocks rubbing together. Sound disappeared next time I was in the car. This is a new ML500 with just over 1000km, otherwise seemingly perfect.
Also, owners manual says to baby the engine for the first 1500km. How seriously should I take that?
#6504 of 8199 First 1500km
Jul 17, 2002 (10:13 am)
"Also, owners manual says to baby the engine for the first 1500km. How seriously should I take that?"
It is agood practice to allow new surfaces to mate to each other under the easiest possible conditions, low speeds reduces friction heat and easy acceleration reduces bearings loads.
#6505 of 8199 Canada scorching?
Jul 17, 2002 (2:44 pm)
>>After running the a/c full blast for over an >>hour on a scorching day....
Just curious, what passes for scorching up there in the Great North? My '02 ML320 A/C does fine here in the Louisiana bayou.
Phil in N'awlins
Jul 17, 2002 (7:00 pm)
You might be surprised at our weather. 34 C (about 93 F) today, very high humidity. Probably not extreme considering conditions across the continent, so I was curious why the squeaks?
#6507 of 8199 why the squeaks?
Jul 18, 2002 (8:13 am)
Nothing major, some piece of plastic rubbing against something, things shift inside a vehicle, heat expansion, contraction by cooling, a jolt on the road. Couple that with the excellent craftmanship at the Alabama plant, do like I do, I enjoy the first class handling and engineering and tend to ignore the occasional rattle, chirp, etc.
Jul 19, 2002 (9:41 am)
With summer in peak here in Georgia and the A/C turned on full blast, I am noticing that when I am stopped at traffic lights, the engine temp on my ML approaching the 100 degree celsius mark. As the car starts to move the engine roars like a Diesel Truck till I reach about 15mph (or 3rd gear) after which it is smooth again and the temp falls back to about 85 degree celsius which usually is the temp that the engine never exceeds. It is almost as if the engine "overheats" only when idling. As long as the vehicle is in motion, the engine does not seem to overheat and sounds normal as well.
Anybody else experiencing this? I see no malfunction indicator lighted up. This usually means that if I take this to a dealership, they run "codes" and tell me that they see nothing wrong and that everything is checking out right. This is the annoying thing I found with cars that use this technology. Unless a code is recorded, the dealership thinks that nothing is wrong. Thanks in advance for any responses.
Jul 20, 2002 (5:14 am)
On a hot day and stopped in traffic, or in stop and go traffic, it is normal for the temperature gauge to reach 100 C. In fact, Mercedes indicates that you should not be concerned until the temperature gauge exceeds 120 C. I have a 2000 ML 320 and a 1995 C 280 and both these cars behave this way when the temperature outside is above 90 F and the traffic is stop and go or stopped.
Also, if you notice on the temperature gauge, the "red zone" does not start until you go over 120 C.