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Apr 02, 2002 (5:43 pm)
i own a 1999 ML320 and a 2001 S430, and my S430 has the "Xenon lights", and i too, thought that Xenon headlamps were supposed to be bluish white, but instead, they were whitish, and a small tint of yellow. I asked my local benz dealership that question, and they said its supposed to be whitish. Then, what kind of light's do those other cars have that i see on the freeway that have the bluish lights???? Special Xenon? By the way, i have been using them for over a year now (S430 xenon lights). My wife's Lexus LS430 has the high intensity discharge headlamps (same as xenon) and they are to me, more white than the mercedes.
#6289 of 8199 3rd Party Oil Changes
Apr 02, 2002 (7:36 pm)
I'm considering having my oil changed by a 3rd party garage (e.g. firestone). My '99 ML320 is not covered by the MB maintenance plan. I've already bought several filters from the dealer. Is there anything noteworthy that I should tell the garage to be aware of...other that use 8 qts. of Mobil One 5W-30. I'm sure they'll drain it through the oil pan plug, although I read where use of a vaccuum device (e.g. topsider) is useful. My dealer drains it through the plug. What should I caution the garage about?
Apr 02, 2002 (8:53 pm)
Good hunting (for the car seat). I know Babies'R'Us stocks the Britax Roundabout but I'm not sure if they carry the Advantage. Since the Advantage has a couple of nice enhancements, I think it's worth the extra 10% or so in price (these seats are around $200-$220; not cheap but Britax is worth it).
Outside of them, some specific baby/toddler stores, particularly the higher-end ones, will carry Britax as well. You can easily find them on the web with free shipping but I know you're in a hurry.
Anyone know if MB has updated its BabySmart convertible seat to the level of the Advantage? I believe the previous convertible BabySmart was based on the Roundabout. You can tell by the Advantage having a knob to raise and lower a headrest and the top shoulder strap anchorage; the Roundabout does not have the headrest and the knob (has three pairs of slots to thread the straps through).
#6291 of 8199 Bon bon - Bi-Xenon headlights
Apr 03, 2002 (2:51 am)
By "the larger bulb" I suppose you're referring to the inboard H7 lights. On North American models, these are used as "flash-to-pass" lights when the normal headlights are OFF. Seeing that you (Canada??) have DRL's, it's normal (though odd) that they never come on.
If my informations are correct, on European models these bulbs are active as "flash-to-pass" lights, but also when using the high beams.
As to the color issue, I think there's no significant difference between the ML's Xenons and other cars.
#6292 of 8199 MB Quality
Apr 03, 2002 (3:50 pm)
I'm still driving a 98ML that I bought new in November of 1997. It had more than its share of problems but fortunately had a great dealer who was more than willing to work with me to fix them all. I can honestly say that the truck performs very well now with no squeeks and rattles and I currently have 56K miles on it. I have been a Mercedes owner for the past 15 years and know all about the quality that they have been known for and what they provided. I must say that I was a bit disappointed with the first ML even though I bought one. One must realize that when it first came out it was in competition with all of the other mid size suvs that were on the market at the time i.e. Ford Explorer and others. If they had initially come out with a high end vehicle totally built in the Mercedes tradition, the truck would have cost in excess of $80K and would have priced themselves totally out of the market for the majority of SUV owner wannabees. As you know the G wagen that Mercedes built for years in Europe was and is considered the best suv ever built sells in the neighborhood of nearly 90K depending what it's equipped with. They just now started bringing them into the US. One of the most important things to remember is that the ML does have an all Mercedes drive train built in Germany. This should be the most important thing to consider. Mercedes as you know has been making improvements to the ML and I think that they will definitely continue as more and more people are willing to pay more money for their SUV's than they did four years ago. All of the newer improvements cost more money and we the consumer will have to pay for it if that's what we want. Personally when I bought mine I liked the utility interior cause I use it for numerous tasks around the house like hauling lumber etc.to build projects, and anything else that comes along. Just my opinion.
#6293 of 8199 Baby seats and ML quality
Apr 03, 2002 (4:35 pm)
Advise not to buy MB baby seats. I have the middle sized one. It's uncomfortable for the infant to sit in, they don't like it. The only advantage is that you can use it in the front seat. Uh, the other advantage is that if your kid has an pee-pee accident, the seat has enough padding and a non-permeable pad underneath to keep the leather seat dry.
For babies, the best seat to buy is the one with the base. This way you don't have to keep threading the seat belt through the carrier everytime you bring the baby.
Regarding quality, I've been reading this board since 1998 or so. There seems to have been a considerable jump in quality since the MY 2000 ML's. I have a 2000 320. The 2 major things I've had done under warranty was replacement of the CD player (known but rare problem), and replacement of all the door seals (for wind noise) but that didn't help.
The most complaints on this board have been what I call intangibles: noises, rattles, trim problems. I've had a few. I also believe that other dealers such as Honda or Subaru would simply have laughed at those complaints, but from what I can see and have experienced, the MB dealers will actually fix or try to fix them.
Utility: I also use it as a work truck and I've carried unbelievable amounts of things in it. From 2 by 4's, to wooden pallets, trash, refridgerators (small ones.) They should have filmed me and used me for an ad.
Apr 03, 2002 (4:36 pm)
Bon Bon, I had the same question about the headlights on my ML 500. My salesman and the head mechanic couldn't explain this. Since the 2002 offers Bi-xenons, the shutter will open to give you "high beams" when the xenons are on. When my lights are off, the headlight (closest to the grill) will come on if you need to "flash" anyone. (As Birger states)
Question to Birger or anyone....The problem that I've noticed recently is that my headlights are blinding on coming cars. They flip their high beams on blinding me. Can these be adjusted a little lower as not to cause me blinding them?
Also, when I have my parking lights on, my fog lights will not come on unless my headlights are switched on. Can the dealer make my fog lights illuminate with just my parking lights on?
#6295 of 8199 ML Quality - ctic
Apr 03, 2002 (5:55 pm)
Your definition of intangibles is not typical. I think all of those items you listed would be major problems in my book, rattles, noises, trim problems- and I drive a Silverado and Blazer! I would definitely sell the vehicle if it had these problems and the dealer did not correct them.
Now that Chevy trucks cost about as much as some MB products I have been cross shopping them. I test drove a ML 2 years ago and it rattled on the test drive! At least my Blazer waited 2 years before it started to rattle.
I can tell you that the Chevy dealer worked hard at fixing everyone. I even had a noise that only occurred in low range, brakes on, with gas pedal about half way to floor. The SUV was nearly stretching out the front suspension. It turned out to be one loose front differential bolt. It only made noise in deep sand on the beach, but it should not make any noise.
I have been looking at the C230 coupe (great deal) or the ML to replace the Blazer. Also looking at Tahoes for the around the same price as a ML. I do not know if I want another SUV or a fun car to drive.
Apr 04, 2002 (6:26 am)
I am a Realtor and my clients seems to find it hard getting in and out of my ML 320. I think it affects smaller people more than taller ones. Anyway, I am thinking about adding step bars, but MB wants $649 +labor, which I think is pretty expensive. Has anyone one found a good aftermarket step bar at a reasonable price?
Apr 04, 2002 (11:18 am)
You could probably write most of that cost off on your taxes.