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#5492 of 8199 Battery Question
Oct 14, 2001 (7:12 am)
My 2001 ML320 sat in my garage for a week without being started. Last night I went to pull it out of the garage and noticed that the interior light did not come on when I opened the door, then noticed that the vehicle would not start. The horn would not even honk. I have to assume that the battery is dead, but would the battery be dead on a vehicle with only 4,700 miles? I will call for roadside assistance and will let everyone know if the battery is the cause.
The terribly shock and embarrassment, if this is the case (this shouldn't happen to a new vehicle, a Mercedes at that). Replies or comments would be greatly appreciated.
#5493 of 8199 I don't think a car being new should be a factor..
Oct 14, 2001 (7:27 am)
of whether a battery dies within a week of no use.
Batteries go through well defined charge-discharge cycles. Depending on your driving patterns prior to the week it sat, the battery would be between 40 and 95% charged (a battery is *never* 100% charged once it's been used).
Within that cycle - dependent on a number of factors - discharge rate (any possible electrical drain on the battery while sitting), weather (cold weather will cause a battery to lose it's charge more rapidly, while also requiring more power to kick over the engine when restarted).
I'd just keep an eye on the battery - you never know, batteries are defective sometimes (one of the most flagrant violators is actually the battery, turning up to be the culprit in a lot of electrical inquiries in new cars). If you have a voltage meter, give it a reading for about a week, right before starting the car each time. If you get numbers that aren't within range, then you have a battery claim on your hands.
Oct 14, 2001 (12:39 pm)
I'm thinking it would be nice to have mud flaps put on my ML when it comes in. When I ordered the ML at the dealer, he went to check to see if they are black or if they come in matching body colors. The salesman was not able to get me the information right then.
Do any of you have mud flaps on your ML's? And if so, what color are they and are you happy with them?
#5495 of 8199 Some issues and questions regarding '01 ML430 stuff
Oct 14, 2001 (2:00 pm)
I have had a few minor issues with my ML430 since we bought it over a year ago. Actually, in Feb 2002, it will be 2 years old.
1. I am currently having some blue liquid leak of the vehicle AFTER I drive it and park it. The location of the leak is just in front and to the right of the front-left tire. Looks like washer fluid overfill... so I just used it until 1/4 of the bottle was used. Hopefully, this will make it go away.
2. I just had a windshield replaced (thanks to good ole Georgia, USA construction vehicles such as dump trucks and crap on the highways). After having the car for a few days and finally being able to detail it (it's been raining for a few days) and look it over, it appears there is some brown glue or something on head-liner on the driver's side. Looks like an accidental swipe of some glue and you'd never notice unless you were looking to make sure all was well. Regardless, it wasn't there before. Is there something I can get this glue off with or do I need to take it to the dealership?
3. Another side-effect from the windshield replacement seems to be some small black hardened specks of something on the white paint -- one speck on the hood up near the windshield and a bunch of specks in the driver's side door-jam. All I know is that wax does not remove it and when I take my fingernail to it... it seems awefully hard. What is this stuff?? I'm thinking this is also something that has to do with the windshield replacement.
Any help would be greatly appreciated on these subjects.
#5496 of 8199 Rear side airbag
Oct 14, 2001 (2:42 pm)
I do not doubt the benefits of the rear side airbag. They will only produce a problem if the airbag deploy with a child's head leaning on the door. I have demonstrated in my ML with my child properly restrained in a five point harness her head touches the door if she doses off. An airbag is extremely dangerous when it first deploy. I do not like the idea of an airbag deploying so close to the head and neck area. I do not doubt an airbag will provide more cushion but it is the deployment phase that is dangerous and the reason the NHTSA came out with the warning.
Oct 14, 2001 (3:58 pm)
I got back last night from my trip to pick up my ML320 at the factory in Alabama, so I thought I would post a few things about the experience while they're still fresh on my cranium. First, here are the basics: brilliant silver/charcoal; M1, M5, M7, Bose; ordered 14 Jul 01/built 20 Sep 01/picked up 11 Oct 01; paid invoice +$1000.
- Factory Delivery: This is a great experience. They really treat you like a VIP and the off-road course is a blast. The factory still isn't doing tours, but I got a rain check on that and I got to drive the off-road course (instead of just riding) as a consolation prize. Getting to drive an 01 ML430 up and down a 70 degree hill, through water, over rocks, etc., is just good, clean fun. Presentation of the vehicle is very thorough. I can't recommend this experience enough if you're an auto enthusiast.
- The Vehicle: It looks great. Whoever picked the exterior/interior color combo (i.e., me) must be a genius. PROS: The new lights, bumpers, and wheels are a nice improvement. I was very pleased with the fit, finish, and materials. Climate control and rear AC are big pluses. Third row seats are easy to install/remove (and the lady at the factory delivery center had an extra cargo cover laying around, so she threw it in for free!). Sound quality of the Bose is excellent. CONS: Ergonomics are generally quite good, but I cannot believe the placement of the radio controls. I'm around 6 ft tall and have freakishly long arms, but I can't turn down the radio without leaning forward! Perhaps the MCS controls were intentionally designed to entice buyers to spring for the phone/voice control combo. IMHO, a vehicle in this class (and at this price) should have steering wheel audio system controls anyway. This is standard equipment in cars at about a third of the ML's price. Climate controls take a little getting used to, but they're fine after that.
- The Trip: I put around 900 miles on the ML coming home to Texas. Much of the trip was through end-of-the-world-type rain storms, and she handled it with ease. The Dunlops stuck to the ground like glue. Handling on dry roads was surprisingly good. Although it's a vastly different vehicle, it felt like I was back in my old '90 300E again. I guess the best word to describe it is "solid." I did, however, discover a couple of problems during the trip. One, the blinker doesn't turn off automatically when I turn right, and two, the AudioPilot function on the Bose system seems to adjust the volume level at random on occasion (rather than in response to some change in ambient sound in/around the vehicle). I'll get these checked out ASAP.
Overall, I'm extremely happy and excited about the new ML. It's going to be a lot of fun.
#5498 of 8199 Battery Issue
Oct 14, 2001 (5:21 pm)
I called roadside assistance and they arrived fairly quick with a new battery. The technician told me that Mercedes has signed a new contract with another battery manufacturer since they (MB) doesn't make the batteries. He also stated that there are many, many batteries that sit around the factory in Alabama and over time they do discharge. I guess I was a recipient of one. He also stated that this vehicle is made to be driven and not sit around in the garage...which is my fault.
I do have to say that I was impressed with the assistance given by the technician. One thing that I thought interesting, was after installing the new battery, he had to reset some type of steering chip by turning the steering wheel all the way to the left then to the right and back again.
Well, I'm headed out to drive my "baby". I was also informed that Mercedes Benz of North Houston will soon be opening the doors of their new location, which will make them the largest MB dealership in the U.S.
Thanks for the note johnnnyc!
Oct 14, 2001 (6:16 pm)
Glad to see you made it back okay; the storms through this part of the South were horrible yesterday.
Two weeks from today I'll be on my way to pick up our ML at the factory. I can't wait. As stated before my ML is exactly like yours except I added M2 and Xenons.
Was there any mention of the when the tour was going to start back up?
Oct 14, 2001 (7:02 pm)
Elizabeth, who handles factory delivery for MBUSI, told me the tour was on hold indefinitely. Hopefully, it will be back up before you get there. Either way, you'll have a wonderful time. Best of luck to you.
Oct 14, 2001 (7:22 pm)
I am sure that this is a topic which has been beaten to death but I wondered if any of you who have recently looked at both could articulate why you chose what you did.
I am also considering a Toyota Sequoia, anybody compare those three. Sequoiasaurus, did you look at the X5?