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#5396 of 8199 The Love affair is over
Oct 10, 2001 (6:08 pm)
My back window now has glue all over it
and has to have the insulation/glue repacked, (this is the 3rd window to have this malady).
The rocking motion is about to make me seasick (yes, I agree with the writings of the reporter whose test drive findings were titled "The ML rocks, literally". My sister's Envoy rides better than my Benz, and has a much better takeoff(yep)
Can somebody PLEASE remind me why I purchased this vehicle?? It is a 2001 ML320, and I have had it since June...and it's always one thing after another. I am begging my husband to allow me to get out of it. I have driven Honda's ALL my life, and all they EVER need is oil changes, and brake pads. I think I should have purchased another Honda product (ACURA MDX)
Surely my truck was built on a Alabama State Holiday by MB employees who were forced to come into work sans holiday pay, and no lunch break. <heavy, heavy sigh>
#5397 of 8199 Center Armrest & Child Safety
Oct 10, 2001 (6:21 pm)
Eplish -- Good point, and one I should have mentioned in one of my previous messages.
AFAIK, only Evenflo recommends against putting an infant seat in the center of the second row because of the armrest. I have seen speculative posts about the center armrest being a potential hazard if it "plops down" onto a rear-facing infant.
However, I don't believe any other carseat manufacturer recommends caution about the center armrest, which would indicate to me that they have tested the scenarios in addition to manufacturers like MB. Britax certainly makes no such recommendation.
The key is to look at how the rear-facing seat's front lip "blocks" the center armrest from hitting the child if it ever comes down on its own. Most infant seats mounted in the detachable base are so high up in the air above the seat cushion that the center armrest couldn't bend down far enough to pose a threat.
E.g. the Centura Avanta SE we used has a pretty high base, and a high front lip and it really pinned the center armrest inside its recessed compartment (though this was not with an ML320). Absolutely no danger of it coming down and hitting the baby. With the Britax Roundabout in rear-facing position, its front lip was also so high that it would not be an issue.
My only guess is that Evenflo may be worried about a very small quantity of models (perhaps older ones) that have poorly designed center armrests, and they're just covering their liability. AFAIK there has not been documented cases of injury from the center armrest in a properly installed seats.
Meanwhile, unfortunately, there are plenty of documented cases of injury from intrusion during a side impact. The M-class will do its able best to minimize and protect against that intrusion, but simple physics still has the child safer in the middle.
Oct 10, 2001 (6:42 pm)
Sorry to hear you're having the infamous glue problem. For the rocking problem, I'd suggest you try test driving an ML430 or the MY2002 ML320 w/ the 17" wheels. I think the rocking is from the thick soft sidewalls of the ML320. If the rocking goes away, one solution it to upgrade your wheels/tires.
For the glue, make sure they use 3M Yellow glue to glue them back on. If they use the MB glue, it'll just happen again. Sounds absurd, but it's true.
Oct 10, 2001 (7:23 pm)
Did you try to drive another ML320 to see if there is that "rocking motion", as many people suggested here several weeks ago? You never got back to us on that. Does your ML have the General Grabber tires or the Dunlop Grandtreks? Try driving a Grand Cherokee over bumps and then you will know what rocking motion really is with those solid axles!
As for the Envoy, it has a much larger engine, so of course it accelerates faster. Then again, it also scored a "Marginal" (one step above "Poor) in the IIHS offset crash test.
As for the glue, it depends on your environment. Those of us that stay tuned to these M-class boards will know that it's a possible occurance, which may be why we are prepared (and not be mad or surprised) for it should something occur. My ML, for example, an early build '00 model built in the first decade of October 1999 production (yes, it's officially 2 years old today!), has never "shed" any of its door insulation pads (Knock on wood).
When you drop your ML off for the door insulation clean-up, take a test drive of another '01 ML320 or a '02 ML320 and then let us know if they have that "rocking motion".
Oct 11, 2001 (9:14 am)
This infamous craftmanship just started to appear on my ML last week. It does not happen all the time. If my memory serves me correct, it only happens when there is a big temperature difference between the outside and inside of the truck.
#5402 of 8199 Neicey59/rocking motion
Oct 11, 2001 (9:16 am)
I guess its my turn...anyway have you check your tire pressure? because I start feeling the same thing and found out that put some extra pound of air in your tire make the ride diffirent. I used to have 32 PSI all around now I have 35 PSI, the the solid ride came back, no more rocky bouncing ride. I have General Tire BTW. Try it and you might change your mind to keep your ML.
Oct 11, 2001 (9:25 am)
Drew, I thought you had an '01 320. You mentioned about your rain-sensored wipers, on your '00? or is it an '00 430 or AMG? Just curious.
Oct 11, 2001 (10:09 am)
No, I was referring to the rain sensor for the other MB cars that I have driven, as well as the '01 ML loaners that I've driven My '00 doesn't have this feature, but it does have speed sensitive wipers.
Oct 11, 2001 (10:14 am)
Wow, 35 psi is a bit too high for me; that's 6 psi above the 29psi recommended. While it results in slightly better handling, the ride also becomes noticably firmer at the back. Personally, I run 33 psi up front, and 31 at the back. Just a personal preference, of course.
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