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#4945 of 8199 Drew... dunno if it changed from later years..
Sep 14, 2001 (3:40 am)
but I used the unit during my test drive (the CD changer) of the 2002. It was definitely 100% Alpine (I used my Alpine magazine, and with the exception of the white lettered 'Mercedes Benz' logo on the front panel, the rest of it was completely identical). Could it be some cross-branding between Panasonic and Alpine?
People thought I was funny - but I brought along my CDs, and gave the stereo a full test drive as well. At $1200, it's a good idea. I thought highly of the system that some people dislike (although I'm not a Bose fan - could it be some prejudice going on against them in this case?).
As for the cell phone - I'm sure there's an entire system. Two questions though - one, is it possible to get one used and have it installed, and two, has anyone successfully used a non-MB phone with the system?
Sep 14, 2001 (5:03 am)
I am on my second white ML, the first, a white with grey 98 ML320 and now a 00 White with grey ML430. My wife drives this vehicle. I think the black black grill and door handles against the white is a nice contrast. White is indeed easier to keep clean and is a neutral color and inconspicuious. Another reason that I stayed with the same color is that most people did not realize that we had purchased a new ML.
#4947 of 8199 CD Changer
Sep 14, 2001 (5:36 am)
Interesting. The CD changer was switched w/ the 2001 model; connections are all fiber optic now. Prior to that, it was Panasonic. Someone on the m-class mailing list installed a Becker fiber CD changer model in his MY2001. I'd presume you could do the same on the MY2002 if you really wanted. Compare the part#s for the CD changer for the MY2002 w/ the one for MY2001 and you'll know for sure. It's a bit of a pain because you have to much w/ some fiber connections in the console to get it to work.
As for Sony...that's almost as bad as Bose. Both are bought primarily for name rather than performance
#4948 of 8199 Ken... that was my point..
Sep 14, 2001 (7:04 am)
about the Sony. I should *really* try to make the sarcasm stick out more in online posts.
But all things considered - I thought the Bose performed fairly well, for an OEM system. I figure it would cost at least $300 for the changer, and although I could do much better for $900 on the rest of the head unit + speakers, the system performs adequately for one worth $600 (so basically, I value it as $300 over what I could get it at - with an extended warranty of 8 years, I don't mind).
Sep 14, 2001 (7:32 am)
Drew, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought all hookups - antenna, power, etc - are all there even if you did not originally order phone with the vehicle (phone being a DIO and not a factory installed option). The only issue is phone/MCS programming.
I remember people's accounts of successfully tapping phones into the internal harnesses, BUT they were not able to make phones communicate with MCS - actually communications were detrimental as MCS would send a shutdown command to the phone if it did not recignize it as an MB.
#4950 of 8199 Re oil consumption
Sep 14, 2001 (8:06 am)
Thank you for the feedback. Great to hear that MB is still standing behind their product. It is unfortunate that they need to, however. I am concerned that the FSS marks the downward turning point for MB quality. Why? Because, as you have experienced, you can take a truly great vehicle and destroy it due to lack of scheduled maintenance. Since half or more MB vehicles are leased, and everyone knows that most folks that lease are not exactly motivated to maintain their vehicles, this creates a huge opportunity to turn vehicles to trash in short order. MB has a vested interest in doing this as it is primarily they who profit from these problems. Were it not for sights such as edmunds.com and mercedesshop.com so many would go merrily along the way to high expenses courtesy of the lame-o FSS system with no means of discussing problems with other MB owners. Thank you Mercedes.
Security has been on almost all of our minds due to the horrific events this week. I would like to suggest that just as many of us go merrily along our way thinking that the security systems put in place on our behalf work without flaw of any notable concern, the maintenance monitoring system put in our MB vehicles is no less subject to less than desired behavior. I hope those of you quick to defend the faulty FSS system just because it has the MB name on it will put your ill-thought-out suppositions aside long enough to save some expense down the road. I only wish our FAA would have done much the same thing and not permitted our airport security to become so horribly lacking as to permit a reasonably expected event (hijacking) to take place. The FAA acted like idiots. They yielded to the pressure of customers that didn't want to be bothered and we are about to pay the price to the tune of Billions of dollars worth of reactive taxation, to mention nothing about many lost lives. Much the same is true of the FSS system. We as individuals didn't have much choice about what the FAA did. However we DO have a choice when it comes to caring for our vehicles, just as we do have a choice in caring for our families.
Sep 14, 2001 (8:13 am)
No you're absolutely correct. I was refering to the fibre optic connections that have to be made for the phone to reside in the centre console
Sep 14, 2001 (8:15 am)
Uh, FSS (known as ASSYST) is also in Europe and Asia, where vehicles are not leased as frequently as people over here (especially in Asia).
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Sep 14, 2001 (8:44 am)
Does anyone here know of any back glass problems with the S class, 2000. We have a S500 and the back glass shattered. We've been told this is a manufacturers flaw. Does anyone here know anything about that?
#4954 of 8199 oil changes etc.
Sep 14, 2001 (11:36 am)
MB designed significant changes within the new engines that enables them to have fewer oil changes. Other companies including Ford are doing this and the next MB innovation will be a zero oil change engine like our differentials and trans.( Though I've changed those for certain longevity benefits but not every 3-6000 miles.) I was all set to get a ML500 until I saw one. This is subjective but the chrome on the door handles and trunk lid and some interior trim for me exudes cheapness. I am now going to keep my beloved Black ML430 it's understated and performs wonderfully for me. If you feel disappointed in a car company well I understand. But a subtle lesson for us along with every sadness pain etc. and believe me I'm feeling these is that we're not supposed to depend on 1)our financial institutions, 2)our military, and 3)our leadership for more then they are capable of giving us. Our true security is to be found elsewhere. Thank you good driving, you do have good taste.