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#3793 of 8199 ML SkyView Top - tbaker17
Jul 04, 2001 (5:33 pm)
At the beginning of June I bought a 2000 ML320 with a Skyview roof. When I first saw it at the dealer I saw skeptical about it, particularly durability and complexity.
I e-chatted on Yahoo with a Mercedes technician who said the only ones that he had to fix came in with a load of kids who each got a turn to open and close it each trip. Other than that kind of abuse he said they should be as good as a regular roof.
Now that I have it, I love and can't imagine buying one without it. I've spent a number of days in a 2001 ML loaner with a regular sunroof and much prefer the skyview roof.
First, the Skyview comes with a big air deflector so there is little buffeting in the car. With the roof wide open and the windows up, there is little air movement in the car. On a hot day you'd still need A/C upfront if you don't open the windows. I thought the sunroof gets very drafty at speed because it lacks a real deflector.
Even when the skyview is open a little, the deflector keeps the wind out so you can enjoy fresh air with less noise than a window.
Second, the feel is totally different, much closer to a convertible; the 'whole outdoors' feel.
The kids love riding in the back seat and its a real eyeopening for adults. Adults who like convertibles love this roof.
When closed, it does have more wind noise than a regular sunroof but nothing objectionable. You lose the glass roof effect but I didn't really like it when I had the loaner.
The skyview roof makes the whole car very special. I wouldn't buy one without it and since I've read here that they will not make them starting with 2002, I guess I'll have this ML for a while.
Either way, the ML is a great vehicle.
#3794 of 8199 purchased a ml320. was it a good price
Jul 04, 2001 (5:53 pm)
OK, MB owners tell me if I got a decent price on a 2001 ml320. I wanted a specific color, black opal, and was told the availability was low on this vehicle. Any way here's the price I got for a 2001 ml320 with m1, m7 options, heated seats, dose stereo option, sun roof and delivery charge +$250(because the dealer had to get the vehicle from a distant MB dealer) $40270 + tax. OK OK tell me how badly I got screwed?? I had to have a specific color, that was causing problems. Be gentle with the response.
So I may have payed more than some of you better negotiators, but the wife will be happy with the vehicle( I pick up tomorrow).
Now I want to put on the brush guard and the side steps. I want stainless steel. Any suggestions on those, em or non-oem? If non-oem which one's and where can i get best price. Also which is the best place for discount oem MB parts on the net??
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#3795 of 8199 dbono and punjabi re:pricing
Jul 04, 2001 (7:14 pm)
We read something here, actually, about 2000 messages ago (perhaps posted last summer???) about incentives. So, around April, I asked one of the sales guys that I got buddy buddy with. He told me to wait if I could cuz incentives were coming during summer. He said up to to $2500. When it came down to it, the incentive in late June was $1500 - maybe it was really more, but 3 other dealers stuck to the same "incentive story." Maybe it will get better b4 summer is over...but I couldn't wait to find out. One sales guy told me it's a regional thing depending on inventory. I'm in SoCal area where there seems to be a very large inventory of '01s - so this pricing scheme may not apply elsewhere. Punjabi, as long as the wife's happy, what does it matter?
#3796 of 8199 Next generation ML
Jul 04, 2001 (8:40 pm)
I don't mind if they install an ML platform on the Jeep Grand Cherokee, but it will really turn me off if is the other way around, or anything from the Jeep parts bin, as a matter of fact.
Jul 04, 2001 (10:12 pm)
Not to worry...As I recall from the DaimlerChrysler merger agreements, that will never happen. MB will always be the first with the state of the art innovations/features which will trickle down or be shared with the Chrysler division. That way the Mercedes-Benz marque won't lose any of its cachet. Something that the Germans are very cautious and protective of.
For example, the new Jeep Liberty will have a special off-road ABS algorithm when the vehicle is put into Low range. This has been on the M-class since it came out for MY1998. And what do you know, the Liberty's system is also made by Continental-Teves.
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#3798 of 8199 X-3 competitor in the works??
Jul 05, 2001 (6:03 am)
As most of us know, BMW is going to be offering a smaller X-3 SUV in addition to the larger X-5 models. Has anyone heard any rumors as to whether Mercedes has anything like this up their corporate sleeve?
Does anyone think that Mercedes would develop a smaller SUV off the Jeep Liberty platform? I'm aware of what MB agreed to originally with Chrysler as to platform sharing. However, from what I've seen to date regarding the so-called merger, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if something like this were to came to pass.
#3799 of 8199 shoreline/punjabi/blackjava/jrockwell
Jul 05, 2001 (6:21 am)
Thanks, for the explanation. You definetly got a very good deal.
read shoreline post how he did get a very good deal,but don't feel bad if you are in love you are in love. just enjoy it.
I had the same problem in about two monhts apart my fuel pump hose came off while driving in a highway.I know its a pain.. to take it to the dealer everytime with the same problem. The second time they replaced my fuel pump and the fuel sending unit which should have been change the first time the problem accured, now my ML run smooth like a brand new truck...(all was still under warranty)...good luck.
I had the same feeling before, but someone from MBNZ.org suggested to spread the tension of the small spring controling the tension of accelerator actuator. Hoe to do it? Just get a flat screw driver and pry that small spring by the middle just to widen up the spring coil, not too much. You will feel the diffirence.
#3800 of 8199 Buying a 1998 or 1999 ML
Jul 05, 2001 (7:44 am)
Hello All ~
I havew been looking into buying a 1998 or maybe a 1999 ML I have heard some problems on the 1998 it being the 1st Year , but I was thinking alot of the bad problems would Be taken care of because the cars I am looking at have from 38,000 all the way up to 60,000, Could someone advise me what to look out for or what I am in store for if i do go ahead and buy a 1998 or 1999 ? My frined has a 2000 and loves it, but any info would be GREAT !!
#3801 of 8199 Is it possible....
Jul 05, 2001 (1:09 pm)
to upgrade a 2000 ML320 to the "Sport" version? I don't think the Sport version was available in 2000.
How much would it cost?
#3802 of 8199 Conversion to Sport ML
Jul 05, 2001 (5:19 pm)
Yes it is possible to convert a ML into a "Sport" version. I am currently in the process of changing my ML rear bumper cover to the ML55 AMG bumper and adding the AMG flares.
The price of the parts are very high. The AMG rear bumper alone costs $575 dollars, then add the AMG/Sport tailgate piece which costs $130. The AMG flares cost $250 each for the front and $244 each for the rear. There is also a cutout in the rear AMG bumper cover so you have to add in the price of an AMG exhaust tip or two (depending on whether you want the AMG or sport rear). I am not sure about the AMG front bumper pricing yet, but another person that swapped that part out posted he spent over $2000 on that.
Then of course comes the labor of installing all the parts. There has been some talk that the parts aren't direct bolt-on to a regular ML but its still possible to install as long as you are handy enough. I personally am not, so I got my mechanic friend involved to help me out. I will be installing my AMG rear bumper tomorrow so maybe I'll drop in a little on how it goes.
Hope this helps,