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#1758 of 8199 planoml Re: 2002 ML details
Feb 16, 2001 (1:13 pm)
While there is still not any official information on the upcoming 2002 ML line. It is for certain that there will be some fairly substantial "amenities" upgrades... for example... Digital Climate control.. perhaps with 2 zones... xenon lights being available or standard without purchase of Sport Package... probably changes to incorporate steering wheel controls for radio, phone... as most all other of MB line has already...
Regarding the exterior change there have been a few pictures of minor bumper changes that may incorporate fog/driving lights in the bumper as the ML55 and sport editions have... but not the same bumper as the ML55 or Sport... BUT we really don't know yet.... there was one report that production at the Vance facility had been cut for 2001 production by a couple thousand units in preparation for major changes to the 2002 product line.
You can read into that statement in many ways... any different dash components to accommodate the climate control system could be considered major to some. So this does not mean that any additional cosmetic changes will occur... but we just don't have the facts yet!!
If you think you can hold off for a bit it would be to your best advantage for several reasons...1) Once any official info. is released on the 2002 changes this will automatically reduce interest in the 2001's making them "better deals" to get them out of the dealers inventory prior to new models. 2) Mercedes may help with this by giving a dealer incentive $$$$ to enable dealers to discount as in past year end sales (i. e. buying at or a bit below dealer invoice). 3) If you wait you can see the new 2002 ML and it's changes and determine if these really matter to you. 4) It is a given that all ML's will depreciate to some extent with any significant improvement of the ML such as Digital Climate control... so by waiting you can reduce your capital investment and take advantage of year end model closeout pricing reducing your imminent depreciation.
IF you wait you will have more info. to make a better educated and informed decision.
Good Luck - Frank
#1759 of 8199 planoml MY2002 changes (con't)
Feb 16, 2001 (1:31 pm)
The next true generation of ML redesign from the ground up is not due until 2004/2005. So if this is the type of change you were inquiring about than "NO" 2002 ML's will not be based on a new platform.
However, as I stated above there may be more than one good reason to wait a bit. You might also find that a particular change for 2002 is really worth waiting for but won't have this option if you buy before you know more.
I can tell you from my personal experience - we purchase a 1999 ML430 which we love.. but!! in 2000 the interior was redesigned and included GPS..more trim appointments in line with a "high line" MB. Better sound deadening, additional side air bags for rear passengers.
My point is that there will be similar scenario with MY2002 and you might just be pissed that you did not wait if you really could have waited. Again, the pricing on MY2001 will be impacted by changes and you will serve your pocket book better to wait...
It has also been speculated that the MY2002 might incorporate side air bag head impact curtains... once again not confirmed but could be important to you and your family to wait and see.
See you - Frank
#1760 of 8199 FYI - ML Tax Advantages
Feb 16, 2001 (2:47 pm)
Tis the season. Tax time that is.
FYI... Maybe this is old news, but any of you business owners who have purchased an ML can qualify for heavy vehicle depreciations. Because the "loaded" Gross Weight exceeds 6000 lbs., "6352 on the 430 to be exact" The depreciation at 100% business use is as much as $23,000.00 in the first year alone instead of $4,900.00 in 2001 for luxury-class autos.
Talk to your tax professionals
P.S. Those MDX owners are out of luck. Oh well!
Feb 16, 2001 (4:15 pm)
Have been busy. Will finally be able to post more in this topic tonight and this weekend. The Friday's Freeways is starting in under an hour's time. Hope to see you there!
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Feb 17, 2001 (11:47 am)
<<#1722 of 1723 FYI - ML Tax Advantages by bcl1 Feb 16, 2001 (02:47 pm) Tis the season. Tax time that is. FYI... Maybe this is old news, but any of you business owners who have purchased an ML can qualify for heavy vehicle depreciations. Because the "loaded" Gross Weight exceeds 6000 lbs., "6352 on the 430 to be exact" The depreciation at 100% business use is as much as $23,000.00 in the first year alone instead of $4,900.00 in 2001 for luxury-class autos. Talk to your tax professionals>>
...would anyone really want to depreciate at 100% business use in Year One?!? Doesn't your tax professional, advise you to depreciate at a rate based upon the useful life of the item? Otherwise, wouldn't you have to go thru the hassle of calculating the depreciation recapture, upon eventual disposal?
#1763 of 8199 Tax Reply
Feb 17, 2001 (12:30 pm)
Your right, more than likely you would only be able to write off 80 to 90% which is still 16M to 18M + the base 3M depreciation. Remember, this is just in year one. The balance of the depreciation is over the next 5 years. It would take you over 10 years to depreciate the luxury auto as much as the Heavy SUV in the first year alone. You only have to have more than 50% Business usage to use this method, and of course be willing to keep good logs. If you plan on keeping the vehicle for more than 5 years it may not make sense, but how many of us do. I am certainly not a tax advisor, I just thought it was a good piece of info worth sharing.
#1765 of 8199 up to 12,000 miles: Mlevinedc
Feb 17, 2001 (3:34 pm)
I believe the alignment is free up to 12,000 miles, after that it is a cost to you. Seems like they could have let you passed by on this one as they had you wait the three weeks before scheduling your pad replacement. Either way, the tire rotation could have been done with no skin off their nose. On the positive side, you did get new pads which is considered a wear part and not normally replaced for free.
#1766 of 8199 Things have been a little slow around here lately...
Feb 17, 2001 (7:40 pm)
so to get the discussions moving again, what does everyone thing of my latest project? I think it compliments the chrome around the taillamps.
#1767 of 8199 Drew I like it!
Feb 17, 2001 (8:28 pm)
Is it tape or do you have a source for it? Specifically I'm speaking of the center license plate chrome cover strip.