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#1743 of 8199 I agree with biker5
Feb 15, 2001 (3:00 pm)
Don't use the "below" sticker method - use the "I'll pay you $xxx over your invoice.
To answer your question - NO $300 is peanuts but it all depends on your area and how other dealers are dealing... Each dealer has different allotments and some have more vehicles to get off lot or "want" to move quickly...
Shop around a bit... tell us where you are located and we'll help you find a good dealer.
For an example of a "Good Deal" take the end of year 2000 models that were liquidated a few months back... you could actually buy at or below invoice due to dealer holdback incentive from Mercedes. Now that we're in the middle of the production year and there is not much news on the upcoming 2002 ML's out yet the dealers are trying to ask for full sticker. Remember in a few months we'll all be talking about the new features on the 2002 models and dealers will be trying to unload the 2001 models. I think year end will prove to be a Very good deal for those who can wait. Of course, the new features on the upcoming 2002 model such as digital climate control.. minor facelift... and what ever else might tempt. one to wait even longer. Bottom line is that the leftover 2001's will be great deals at the end of the year so don't be disappointed if you see savings of $4000 on same vehicle you would purchase now without said discount... Food for thought, to get your negotiating skills going so you can get the price down now..."A well educated customer is our worst deal" - letting the dealers know "you know" there is a change in the ML coming soon for 2002. This might give them incentive to stop jerking you around and give a good price (what ever "good" means!).
After all is said and done it is all about how much time you have to deal with "shopping." If your a lawyer or doctor with each hour spent car hunting takes $$$$ out of your pocket then it is not worth the time shopping. The new Mercedes "same price" shopping has removed a bit of profit from the dealer anyway... so at any price up to sticker the dealer is not making a killing anyway... maybe $3000. This is split between dealer, sales person, floor planning....
Good luck and let us know where you are located so we can point you in "good dealer" direction.
Feb 15, 2001 (4:00 pm)
Picked up our new MY01 ML320 today. Requirements were pretty simple; a luxury mid-size SUV that wasn't EVERYWHERE, hopefully with 4WD/AWD and preferably more than 4000lbs towing capacity. We drove the Acura MDX, Yukon Denali, Infiniti QX4, and ML320/ML430.
Didn't even consider the RX300, there's way too many on the road. The X5 doesn't have enough cargo room. The Sequoia looks (IMO) like a slightly larger 4Runner, so it wasn't considered. QX4 had a very nice interior, but has small backseat room and seemingly small legroom in the front. There is no comparison between the MDX and the ML. The MDX has tons of cargo room and rides like a minivan, not a SUV (makes sense since it is built on the Odyssey platform). The interior is somewhat plain. Plus, there's nothing to break up the simplicity of the side exterior, all sheetmetal - inviting door dings. The Denali's engine was godlike (6.0liter - 320hp). It drove and handled great, its just too stinkin' big for our us and the dash is not impressive.
The ML is *really* safe, looks great(especially with added body-colored fender flares, less minivan-ish), and drives great. We are very happy and had a great dealer experience. I wish the ML430 didn't cost a lot more, because the NAV, engine and brakes would have been nice too. But the ML320 will do just fine, and I'll add 17" or 18" aftermarket wheels down the road.
Got the following options: Cypress Green, M1, Bose, Sunroof, Heated Seats, Hitch Kit, and Body-Colored Fender Flares. First pic is up at http://scott.wilson.org/ml320/
These and other info boards are great places to add to your buying research. Keep up the informative posts!
#1745 of 8199 Cadillac finally builds a great product
Feb 15, 2001 (4:51 pm)
If you have the money to spend on a M-B, consider the Cadillac Escalade. It's the most powerful SUV on the market now with 345hp and 8500lb towing cap. It's also every bit as luxurious as any other SUV out there. Just drive it to see.
Feb 15, 2001 (5:06 pm)
How much did you pay??
Looking to get similar package in VA without giving my first born son...
#1747 of 8199 To ML55 owners, about Horsepower...
Feb 15, 2001 (5:21 pm)
Have any of the rest of you ML55 owners noted that the ML55 is listed 342 HP in most places, but is listed 346 HP in the specs listings found in our owners manuals? I realize it doesn't much matter, but I found it interesting. I have found the HP output to be satisfactory whatever it may actually be.
Feb 15, 2001 (6:28 pm)
As many people have mentioned, what you pay completely depends on your area, market/demand, dealer incentives/rebates, and dealer stock. I got $1500 off MSRP with little trouble. Remember, MB holdback is 3%, so at invoice the dealer still makes a profit but the salesguy gets squat. I typically buy all vehicles at a few hundred over invoice, but you must also factor in those things I mentioned above. If you have several dealers you are willing to work with in your area, you'll be better off.
Also, MB dealer installed options vary QUITE A BIT in terms of labor price between different dealers. The prices on MBUSA for those items doesn't include labor. Check around with different dealers and compare.
Although I didn't end up using them, offers from services such as LiquidPrice and Priceline immediately offered $1K-1.2K off. If you can wait till the 2002 line is almost ready to come out, you should be able to grab a MY01 at or near invoice, especially if there are manuf incentives.
Feb 15, 2001 (6:30 pm)
love the truck and good safe luck! It's a beauty and I love the fender flares.....enjoy.....bon
#1750 of 8199 tazzidevel1
Feb 15, 2001 (7:32 pm)
What part of VA are you in... if you are in Northern VA as I am. Deal with a MD dealer Euro MotorCars in Bethesda MD... We have purchased many Mercedes from a sales person Gil Hofheimer...he has been in the business a long time and has even been GM at two other local MB dealers - American Service Center and HBL in Tysons...
I can tell you he will take very good care of you and the distance is not bad at all going to Bethesda MD...I have personally worked at HBL in Tysons 8 years of my life and can tell you they are NOT the dealer to deal with.
Call Gil Hofheimer for the best price and service - you can call him at work at 301-215-5407 or his cell at 301-674-1566. He also has a web page if you care to visit mercedessales.com. He gives a lot back to the community and is a great person which makes the deal that much better.
Tell him you know Frank Gstrein through a Mercedes Forum.
He is excellent and I can't say that about most...
Let us know if you need any more help!
#1751 of 8199 quip Re: Cobra grill and accessories
Feb 15, 2001 (10:21 pm)
Nice pictures and neat guards... where can these Cobra products be purchased... do you know price on side running boards?
Thanks - Frank
#1752 of 8199 tazzidevil1 and MB Pricing in VA
Feb 16, 2001 (3:54 am)
Don't listen to Frank - he doesn't know what he's talking about...call Gregg Eisenberg at EuroMotorcars instead (301-215-6061). Seriously, I live closer to both HBL and ASC but go to Euro for everything. They have the absolute best customer service and are reportedly one of the top five MB dealers in the US. There's a reason for this.
I just bought my 01 ML430 Sport from Gregg several weeks ago (my third MB from Gregg and this dealership). While I'm sure I didn't dip into Euro's holdback, it was damn close.
Hope this helps. Regards, Bill Shaw