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#879 of 2512 Jeep Problems???
Feb 14, 2002 (1:39 pm)
As found on Yahoo news...
Chrysler Recalls 1.6 Million SUVs
Thu Feb 14, 1:54 PM ET
By Justin Hyde
DETROIT (Reuters) - Chrysler is recalling about 1.6 million Jeep Grand Cherokees to fix what hundreds of owners say is a tendency in the sport utility vehicles to roll backward even when their transmissions are set in "park," the carmaker said on Thursday.
Chrysler, an arm of DaimlerChrysler AG , denied any responsibility for the problem, saying driver error was the most likely cause.
Federal regulators said the company's move would not end their inquiry into a wider range of Grand Cherokees linked to 364 crashes, 159 injuries and five deaths.
Chrysler said it had found no defect that could cause the problem, but would recall the vehicles anyway to appease concerns from regulators and customers, some of whom have sued. Federal investigators have said the automaker contended most of the problems stemmed from owners getting out of the vehicle while it was still running.
The recall covers 1993 through 1998 model year Grand Cherokees in North America. Chrysler said it would install a device inside the floor shifter to help ensure the vehicle's transmission is placed firmly in park.
Chrysler also gave customers several tips to ensure their vehicles were in park, including removing the key from the ignition when leaving the vehicle.
"We're confident this recall will be resolved based on our actions," said Chrysler spokeswoman Angela Spencer Ford.
But Tim Hurd, a spokesman for the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (news - web sites), said its investigation would remain open while it reviews data from Chrysler. In addition to the vehicles recalled, the NHTSA's investigation also covers Grand Cherokees made starting in 1999, which Chrysler said had a different transmission design.
DaimlerChrysler's shares were down 62 cents at $37.79 in Thursday afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange (news - web sites).
One class-action lawsuit is already pending against Chrysler over the problem. Some attorneys and investigators had claimed the Grand Cherokee's transmission was designed so that it would indicate it was in park even though it was actually halfway between park and reverse.
In November, the NHTSA said one of its investigators was able to replicate the problem on a Grand Cherokee three times. Chrysler claimed the government had gone to unusual lengths to test the vehicle, and said any vehicle might be susceptible to the problem under the agency's conditions.
Hurd said the NHTSA had asked other automakers for data about any similar problems they had observed. The NHTSA so far had found that among 23 SUVs, the rate of rollaway complaints for the Grand Cherokee was five times greater than for any other automaker's SUV, and four times greater than for the Dodge Durango.
Sean Kane, head of Strategic Safety, an Arlington, Virginia-based vehicle safety research firm, said automakers often offer to recall vehicles as a way of avoiding embarrassing information coming to light in an NHTSA inquiry.
"I'm glad to hear DaimlerChrysler is taking this action because there's a whole host of people who have been injured," he said.
"Be good... or be good at it!"
#880 of 2512 re: problems
Feb 14, 2002 (3:43 pm)
Let's avoid posting copyrighted material here - the lawyers have a fit when they see it!
Short excerpts are okay with proper citation.
#881 of 2512 jeep lareado
Feb 14, 2002 (6:24 pm)
Tell me i am not the only one who has a loud noise coming from the differential (rear end) the shop said that it was not loud on there scale when you hit 65 the radio can't drowned it out.If you have had this problem write back and let me here your views thanks
#882 of 2512 Reliability response to fanman
Feb 14, 2002 (9:18 pm)
"Why does Consumer Reports share this view..."
WHY don't you "experts" understand that the Consumer Reports review is for a model that is FOUR years old, the 1999's!! This is also the model year that Fanman has. CR has NOT run a reliability test report since, NEITHER has anyone else. The other magazines you mention do NOT have any reliabilty figures either - they simply have stated a couple of minor things they didn't like. Everyone seems to be harping on the problems of YEARS ago, the into of the redesign in 1999. I agree with the others, my 2001 Laredo has been PERFECT. Fit and finish are perfect also, not a single minor problem at all. I just love the vehicle, what a pleasure it is to drive.
Yet, "fanman" wants to blacken the entire Jeep image based on a 4 year old vehicle that he happen to have a lot of problems with. It could have just as well been a Ford or an Acura. We'll see how long his Toyota lasts, better get the sludge remover out and hope that your warranty covers a new engine! And by the way, I have spoken with a lot of '99 Grand Cherokee owners at different events and plenty of them have had NO problems with their vehicles. Many have over 100,000 miles on their V8 engines and still runing strong.
Whatever Fanman replaces his Jeep with his chances of getting a vehicle with problems are just the same NO MATTER what brand he decides to get...one of the main reasons I like my Jeep is the looks and style, miles ahead of the others, especially the overbloated and god-awful looking Sequola or whatever they call it. I bet it's a lot of fun to park and maneuver around!
#883 of 2512 Bushing replacements
Feb 14, 2002 (9:25 pm)
Just bought a 98 JGC with 89000 miles. All appears fine after 1000 miles in last 2 1/2 weeks but have noticed some slight clunking noises in the suspension - only on rough roads. Suspicion the bushings are needing replacement but will confirm after hearing back from any experienced owners.
1) Any recommendations on checks or specific inspection tips to validate condition of bushings?
2) Is anyone aware of websites to identify and purchase these bushings from?
3) Any suggestions on replacement? I will do the work myself.
Feb 14, 2002 (10:10 pm)
"Whatever Fanman replaces his Jeep with his chances of getting a vehicle with problems are just the same NO MATTER what brand he decides to get..." Do you really beleive that? Don't you see how absurd that statement is?
"It could have just as well been a Ford or an Acura. A Ford well maybe, an Acura, NOT LIKELY!
Ammons2- You have a differential that is noisy. The noise you are hearing is most likely the whine of gears that are prematurely wearing. This is a common problem with the JGC. Mine was replaced and the new one is getting louder and louder just like the original one. I'll have it replaced near the end of my warranty around the time I get rid of it.
tloke1 I don't wish to blacken Jeeps image. That is not my intent. I do, however, want people that are looking for reliable Sport Utility vehicles to be aware that the Jeep Grand Cherokee is a Chryser Product and hence it's reliability is compromised. But hey, its not just me that feels this way. Edmunds own review of the 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee addresses the problems associated with its reliablity. They at least seem to feel the new Jeep Grand Cherokee still has problems with its reliability. I welcome your comments on Edmunds review. It sounds like you may have a good Jeep. Well, count your blessings. Comparing the Jeep GC to an Acura in terms of reliability is really where you've lost all credibility with me. Please!!!
#885 of 2512 A Ford well maybe, an Acura, NOT LIKELY????
Feb 15, 2002 (3:15 am)
Sorry fanman, in the 1990s sure, but not for the current models. Compare the 2002 JGC's to The MDX for example. In the forums, I counted nearly 40 different problems with the MDX. Everything from wind noise to weeping mirrors to seats that don't fold flat to a cheap interior and the list goes on and on. You'll hardly find a negative post anywhere on the 2002 Grand Cherokee's. Build quality, fit and finish and reliability are exceptional. Owners are extremely pleased. Meanwhile, Acura buyers are bending way over and getting screwed by the dealers. Profits of $6000-$9000 are very common. Now take those figures into consideration when figuring depreciation. You've lost $10k the day you buy one. Plus, you get a nice selection of up to 40 different problems and quirks. All for $40,000. Yep, let me get in line now! Oh, and start saving your money for those $2000 30k tune-ups!
#886 of 2512 Picking up 3rd GC Today
Feb 15, 2002 (6:49 am)
Yes have had a 1996,1999,and now a 2002. Hope this one is a good or better than the others.
Never had rotor/brake peoblems, did have rear spindle bearings go in the 1999, and the radio in the 96, all were fixed in one day. Front axle wine in both, and driver power window motor in the 99. Besides that they have been great. If only could get more than 14 miles/gallon around town, 21/22 on the road is good.
Test drove an 02 CRV no thanks.
With all the consumer cash DC is giving towards the GC I am getting a sunroof this time and still keeping close to the same lease payment as my 99.
Feb 15, 2002 (8:41 am)
You said that you have a 2001 JGC that has been perfect and your not surprised (and it is expected) that the 1999 that fanman has alot of problems. Its strange to me that you consider a 3 year old vehicle "old". Why should you not still have good reliability at 3 years. Toyotas Hondas and Nissans are just starting to break in by that point. I have a 1990 Ford Mustang that I bought brand new that has nothing but nomal wear and tear maintenance needs and a cruise control part that broke.
I think we just have different levels of expectations. Yours are obviously lower probably because you have come to accept the Chrysler problems as "normal" (?).
#888 of 2512 "Normal" problems, what problems?
Feb 15, 2002 (10:39 am)
" think we just have different levels of expectations. Yours are obviously lower probably because you have come to accept the Chrysler problems as "normal" (?)"
WHAT problems? I haven't had any with any of the Jeeps I've owned. But you must be right since you have a Mustang that has only one problem. The focus here, in case you have missed it, is a comparison between the NEWER models. You still want to talk about Mustangs?