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Jeep Grand Cherokee, SUV
#2173 of 2515 Re: Front Brake Installation [wlbrown9]
Aug 08, 2005 (10:42 am)
I have a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo that needs the pads replaced and rotors resurfaced. I have worked on smaller cars without ABS. This would be my first time with the JGC (and first time the pads get changed).
Is there anything I need to be aware of before I start? For example, do the calipers come off with a standard socket (or is a special tool required)? Do I need to do anything for the ABS before I push the piston in with a C-clamp (such as loosen a bleeder screw)? Would it be beneficial to spend $20 and register on the Jeep site for access to the on-line service guide? Thanks!
#2174 of 2515 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.7L Hemi Limited)
Aug 08, 2005 (6:12 pm)
I am interested in upgrading my Jeep. I am looking for any information on aftermarket parts as follows : Headers, Exhaust, Cold Air Intake Systems, Power chips, the Turbonater, and other such parts and up grades. What are the best brands for each and are they available?? PLEASE HELP !!
#2175 of 2515 Re: Front Brake Installation [tgallup]
Aug 08, 2005 (7:06 pm)
Nothing special about ABS equipped vehicles. I tend to take the lid off of the brake fluid reservoir and watch the fluid level when I compress the calipers.
I don't think I've ever bled the brakes when just changing out pads.
#2176 of 2515 Re: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.7L Hemi Limited) [fubzy]
Aug 08, 2005 (7:08 pm)
For starters, don't put any of that "turbonater" junk on there. It does absolutely nothing to help and can only hurt.
I'd start with the simple stuff: K&N filter and maybe a Borla exhaust. Not sure if they're available yet. Try googling K&N and Borla and see what you come up with.
I'd also be careful about any chips while you still have a warranty left.
#2177 of 2515 Re: Front Brake Installation [tgallup]
Aug 08, 2005 (7:16 pm)
The brakes are pretty simple. No need to loosen the bleeder screw; just watch the reservoir fluid level to make sure it doesn't overflow.
Calipers should be a standard socket; most likely a 10mm. I'm not sure though, I don't own an '03.
It looks like the caliper slide pins may require an allen wrench to loosen them. I'm going by a service manual and it's kind of hard to tell.
Just make sure you put some anti-squeal on the back sides of the pads and lube up the slide pins.
You may want to consider buying some aftermarket rotors also. They're normally pretty cheap and will fix any shudder problems you may be having.
#2178 of 2515 Why do people buy this vehicle?
Aug 10, 2005 (7:30 pm)
I just rented a 2005 JGC Laredo for a couple of vacation days in Florida. I was actually pretty astonished at how unimpressed I was. My thoughts;
1 - I thought the GC was supposed to be more upscale, the interior was really cheap to me. Hard plastic everywhere. Black plastic around radio looks really downscale. Admittedly the version I drove was a rental stripper (cloth), but they don't improve the dash in the more upscale versions, do they? Is this the best Chrysler can do for $30K?
2. - Not very spacious for the mileage. Not very inexpensive for the lack of economy.
3. I had the base engine. Lots of noise accompanied by some acceleration.
4. The door releases are way too low, I always found myself reaching for the handle area but the release lever is 6 inches lower! - blocked nicely by my left leg. Didn't Chrysler think about ergonomics?
I guess I've been spoiled by my previous Audi A4 and my current Acura TL. I thought this 'nice' SUV would have offered a bit more value. It amazes me how some people comment on the luxury it offers - what have you been driving? I can't imagine why I would ever want one unless I really needed the off road capability.
#2179 of 2515 Why do people buy this vehicle? by tlong
Aug 14, 2005 (11:48 pm)
1. Why would you think the BASE Grand Cherokee would be more "upscale"? What other similar size and similar priced SUV vehicle is more upscale than the base Grand Cherokee? This model sells for 25k and includes quite a few nice features for that price, not to mention stellar crash-test ratings. Go look at ANY new vehicle in this class and price range and tell me you don't see a lot of plastic in the interior - every manufacturer is doing this.
2. Are there any 25k mid-size SUV's out there that are that much larger than the GC and that get better gas mileage?
Where have you been reading comments about how much "luxury" people are saying the BASE model GC has? (or any other vehicle in the same class).
#2180 of 2515 1997 JGC AND 2000 TOWN AND COUNTRY by hoppy1977
Aug 14, 2005 (11:57 pm)
So let me get this straight, after 8 years and 108,000 miles the engine has a bit of a miss and you have a screech sound when you turn - and these are "BIG" problems????
#2181 of 2515 Re: Front Brake Installation [paule]
Aug 15, 2005 (9:33 am)
Thanks, Paule. I worked on my brakes this weekend and they are pretty simple, as you mentioned.
However, my reservoir fluid level is pretty high right now and I have to compress the caliper cylinders to fit the new pads. Is there a way to siphon or remove the excess fluid from the reservoir without bleeding the brakes? I want to try to avoid the hastle if I can.
#2182 of 2515 Re: Why do people buy this vehicle? by tlong [tloke1]
Aug 15, 2005 (9:54 pm)
tloke1 - Answers to your questions:
1. I thought the Cherokee line included the Liberty (small SUV) and Wrangler (traditional, crude, good off-road vehicle). I viewed the Grand Cherokee as the bigger, nicer SUV. Base is $28K for AWD. For example, Honda Pilot is only $26K base and has much more room, more refinement, third row seating, much better interior quality.
2. Again, Honda Pilot is larger, has same gas mileage with much more refined engine, 40 more HP.
My original comment also mentioned that even though the higher models of the Grand Cherokee would have leather, more features, etc. - is that dash surface any different? The top of the dash was hard plastic. I wouldn't think that would change in the >$30K versions. The ergonomics were pretty poor (my comment on the door release handle). The engine was noisy for the moderate power that was delivered.
I realize that this might have looked like a troll but was not - I thought the value and refinement were poor for a newly redesigned vehicle of this class. Given how much GM is criticized for lousy interiors, how much the Japanese and German makes have focused on really nice interior quality - the JGC seems like an amazing step backwards. I also didn't mention that I don't think the new model looks as nice as the previous one. If we want the American (or in the Chrysler case - the German/American) manufacturers to improve this is not the way to do it.
I concluded by admitting that if I wanted a medium-sized vehicle with substantial off road capability then this might be the one, but I don't see a lot of reason to choose this vehicle otherwise. It surprised me because I thought it would be a lot better than it was.