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Jeep Grand Cherokee, SUV
#1882 of 2515 Re: 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo [jeepdespair]
Sep 24, 2004 (3:55 am)
This description sounds like our experience with a leased 1995 JGC. It was a total piece of junk. Thanks to Jeep / Chrysler, we now own Honda vehicles. The quality of a Jeep vehicle is VERY poor, and in addition, the dealers cannot trouble shoot the problems. Owning and / or leasing a Jeep is a total negative experience. they look great, and they ride well, but they lack component quality.
#1883 of 2515 I have two Jeeps
Sep 24, 2004 (7:02 am)
a 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited and a 1997 Wranger. I have found a few issues that were persistent (tranny leaks). But once they identified the problem (bad seal) and had new designs, I haven't had a problem since. My Wrangler had a known issue with the exhaust, but other than that, it has been great.
Jeeps are actually quite easy to work on yourself, if you have some tools, a good manual, and a desire to DIY. I do all my Wrangler work and as much on the Grand as I can (short of electrical/computer).
My owning of a Jeep vehicle has been an excellent experience overall, despite the problems. My Honda Civic had some issues as well. No car is going to 100% perfect, even Hondas (or Acuras, or Toyotas, etc). Just look at the problem forums on here if you question this. Did you get a lemon off the line? Perhaps.
You did say, "The quality of a Jeep vehicle is VERY poor." For the one you had, that seems to be the case. For me, the quality of our Jeep has been excellent (once they redesigned a seal). Our Grand now has 98,000 miles on it, and with proper maintenance I see it lasting many more miles. As for the dealer service department, I feel that way about any dealer service (Jeep, Honda, BMW, etc). That is why I have educated myself about my cars and how to troubleshoot. When/if I have to take it in, I have already narrowed down where the problems are and what the symptoms are. Service departments appreciate my efforts and as a result, have been able to fix my problems quickly.
As for componentry, I have modded my Wrangler and replaced some parts of it. That is the beauty of Jeeps. The aftermarket is SO very full of stuff for them (much like Hondas and Toyotas). If there is an aspect of a Jeep you don't like, chances are, there are aftermarket vendors just waiting to hear from you to help you replace it. Granted, on a lease that is tougher to do, but it is there. The ONLY thing I want to replace on my Grand is the sway bar to make it a bit stiffer in the corners (lots of windy mountain roads). Addco sells 1" solid sway bar kits for front and rear and can be swapped out easily in an afternoon.
I loved my Honda Civic, but it beat me up on long drives over 1.5 hours. Hondas are good cars, but like I mentioned earlier, have problems. I could consider the noisiness of my Civic a design problem and say that Hondas are junk because they are poorly designed and have no sound protection. Is that fair? No, because Accords, Pilots, and their high end Acuras are generally extremely quiet.
Sep 27, 2004 (10:35 am)
Are the new '05 GCs available at local Jeep dealers now? I've been wanting to get my hands on one for a test spin...
Sep 27, 2004 (12:21 pm)
I haven't seen them at the dealerships yet, but I can't say I've been looking. I did my drives at Camp Jeep.
I would think they are coming soon, so keep your eyes open.
Sep 28, 2004 (5:18 am)
I own a 99 JGC and now have a brand new 4runner. Although I still really like my jeep and haven't had too many problems with it, I am really glad to have the 4runner. I probably won't get any more jeeps after this. Can't say I didn't try.
#1887 of 2515 Re: [jrosasmc]
Sep 28, 2004 (12:10 pm)
Yes.. the new 05 Grand Cherokee has arrived. Yesterday, I stopped by O'Neal Chrysler Plymouth Jeep in Raleigh, NC... they just in the last week took delivery of an 05 Limited... Navy blue w/ all the options... Nav, DVD, Rear Assist, Hemi, UConnect, Sirius Sat Radio, etc. etc. I test drove it.. quite a ride...
They expect 3 more within the week.
The new 05 handles far better than the 04... not to mention the tremendous power of the 5.7 Hemi... a little dissapointed with the outside styling, but the inside styling, with all of the bells and whistles is quite impressive... the room inside was noticibly improved.... although the windshield slopes forward a little dramatically. Great suspension, great power, great inside finishing, great options,.... but a little plain outside...
Sep 30, 2004 (8:57 pm)
I just looked at one the other night. Nice job. The dash is much better than what is in Explorer. The seats are much more comfortable too. I don't get the black door handles/body side molding in Lorado version. The black cheapens the look. the other thing I did not like was the low 4WD HANDLE. Why not make a simple botton on the dash instaed of chrome pull knob. It appears complicated for simple function. There is not a whole lot of room behind the second row seat.
I am deciding between V-8 Explorer XLT sport or GC Lorado V8 both with sunroof. You can get Explorer for about $25,500 (list $35400) . The list for GC is $32,700. I think I wait a few months until Chrysler rolls out their rebates.
Everything equal, I will probably get a GC since it has better dash, better seats, and its unibody should have smoother ride.
Oct 04, 2004 (10:00 am)
I have a 2002 JGC Limited. I'm looking to get some new tires. I think the standards are Michelin Cross Terrains, but I've heard that the Toyo M410s are very good as well (they also test well in Consumer Reports). Any personal experiences out there? Recomendations?? Thanks!
#1890 of 2515 I have Bridgestone
Oct 04, 2004 (10:49 am)
Dueler AT Revo's and love their on road handling (and they are quiet). I have BFG AT's on my Wrangler. We originally had the Wrangler AT's on our 2000 GCL and got decent miles from them. The Dueler's we have had great luck with and they handled the limited snow and dirt and mud with no problems.
Oct 05, 2004 (4:00 am)
I bought BFG 265/70/17's for my '02 Overland. They have about 20K miles on them now with little wear. They're a bit noiser than the stock tires but seem to be wearing better.