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Nissan Pathfinder, SUV
Nov 26, 2002 (7:28 am)
Serendipity? Fate? Don't sweat it. Let someone else be the first adopter and you get it if they work the bugs and styling issues out in a few years. Intmed99 has the perfect plan to wait a few years with his new '02. If Toyota had been fair about the supercharged 3rd gen I originally went after, then I would have still rather had the last of that run. To me, that is another unexpected plus with the '03 LE: last of a good run, hopefully very few TSBs for the '03s (e.g., my temperature display is 100% accurate so far, etc.), and for the cheapest of prices - still can't believe I got the '03 with the new VDC for the same price break that they were selling some of the '02s at (i.e., around ~$1400 under invoice depending how you calculate invoice). I think prices will be even better next month and the financing only gets better too. With the 4-6 grand you saved, if you had bought, for example, YHOO a few months ago you would have doubled your money by now. We had expected to have to spend around $36-37K total for that 4th Gen Sport, so I drool now thinking of getting in on more risky stocks while they are cheap. To me, it is money I can afford to gamble with and if I do it right I can at least double or triple it in the same time that the 4Runner first adopters have lost all that premium they paid plus the depreciation. That is why Nissan was a smart back-up plan and why I always told friends I thought from an economic stand-point they would be fiscally better off saving the premium that Toyota demands and going with the Pathfinder if it met their needs. Yes, Intmed99 is right, you always get what you pay for - IMHO, if you stick with certain reliable brands (and you keep for the long haul IMO) and you can get by on less vehicle and it will do the basic job for you - then you should usually go with the least expensive from a fiscal investment perspective (unless you are rich). I was not rich, but was going 4th Gen because of at least a certain amount of emotion after so many years in used cars. In the end, be glad that you lived up to that fiscal standard and try to ignore any emotion over that 4th Gen Limited . . . which would have been closer to 40K. From 30K to 40K is a huge leap - 10K invested can easily be the 30K for your next vehicle in 5 years; whereas the 10K invested in the 40K vehicle is negative return and would probably only have been marginally better for your honest daily needs (we're not rock crawlers . . ) and may even have left you with huge buyer's remorse when they fix all the "problems" in a few years. Hope that helps.
P.S. I thought we were moving on . . . > (J/K)
#6078 of 8191 2001 Pathfinder 4WD Window problems
Nov 26, 2002 (8:24 am)
I'm wanting to know if anyone else is having this problem. My car windows are continually getting stuck. I have taken the car in three times and each time they just oil it and say the windows are dirty. My car is regularly cleaned and I'm concerned there is a problem with the electrical. The windows start by getting slower and slower and then almost stop. I'm at 20,000 miles and my warranty expires at 30,000 so I'm wanting to get this problem taken care of. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#6079 of 8191 Mjohn and WT...
Nov 26, 2002 (8:28 am)
Shoot, forget about the '03 4Runner, i have my eye on the new GX! Darn, that thing is on every TV channel! I think they had a commercial for it in every commercial break last night on Monday Night Football!
WT...that is just a freak coincidence at your work place. Or is it??
In my opinion, the Pathfinder LE is a great SUV...good at everything. You definitely should keep it for a few years. The new 4runner will have many bugs. The 3rd gen 4Runner underwent 2 major revisions (1999 and 2001) in it's 7-year cycle (1996-2002). Just looking at the steering wheel on '03 4runner Ltd., you can see there are two empty spaces on the steering wheel buttons...could be something interesting down the road.
I feel for you, WT. I am drooling over the GX, even thou i am into off-roading. I must resist because i got my '02 4runner Ltd 4wd (loaded with most accessories & local dealer options--includ. roadside assistance, VIN-imprinting on windows, etc.) at $1000-1500 BELOW invoice! It is simply too good of a deal to throw away on a Lexus GX!
#6080 of 8191 Re:2001 Pathfinder 4WD Window problems
Nov 26, 2002 (10:11 am)
I can't offer any assistance but I can tell you that my 2001 LE with 26K has a rear passenger window that has started getting slower and slower. I haven't taken it in yet and your comments make me wonder if there is some kind of build issue here. Any others experience this?
Nov 26, 2002 (10:53 am)
how fate is powerful.
You guys know I had my doubts over the alst few weeks.
This demo 4Runner is god sent, I am sure !!!
Taking time to look at it from all angles ( I could not sit in it the doors a locked and there is not reps around) it basically confirmed me all the reasons why I freaked last August-September and went for something else.
Basically: it scks.... at least from a design perspecitve but also from a quality perspective.
1) The rear-end is too busy, looks real weird, toyish, overdone.....
2) The flares are too big and I don't like how they cave in at the top
3) The squarish look of the flares does not help
4) I don't like the front lights, nor the way the make the round corner and the way they almost reach the front flares.
5) Fog lights are wimpy
6) Even the mud flaps are wimpy, they are made of very cheap plastics, they look like they come from Walmart....
7) Cladding: the cladding was actually peeling off of the driver's door, I could have ripped it in a second, I could almost insert my little finger in the top left corner the way it was peeling off......
8) The dash is awfull in person, I'm not into round things like that. They stick out too far.
9) I like the shifter stick....
10) The right portion dash is very GM-like, squarish, rather flat
11)The cargo area does not look much more bigger than the pathfinder
12)I don't like the Limited wheels (the concentric circles look cheap)
Well hey.... that is exctly what I needed to move on. Facts instead of perception.....
You know right now I do not regret my move and I think I have made the right choice actually.
I don't think that if I would have had to make the decision today that I would have taken the 4Runner. Really.....
This helps closing the loop guys and it has me worried about the future of the 4Runner. I hope that will not only correct design errors but also up the quality a couple of notch.
Intmed: I'd suggest that you keep your Runner for now, 3rd gen are still very sexy, rugged and quality trucks. I'd give at least a year to the GX to stabilize (the GX is much nicer than the 03 4Runner but we do not get those in Canada).
Now lets move on for real !!!!
(Mjohn: I wanted to move on until I faced this darn truck in the Lobby this morning. Now I swear no tuning back !!!!!)
#6082 of 8191 Dynamic Control Package
Nov 26, 2002 (1:48 pm)
I'm about to purchase an LE and want to now if it's worth getting the Dynamic Control Package? Do I ned it? Also from what I've been reading, I should not purchase the tow hitch from the dealer? Is that correct? And if I do purchase it somewhere else, who installs something like that? I'm an auto idiot! Thanx in advance for any info!
#6083 of 8191 Window Problems:
Nov 26, 2002 (2:51 pm)
My 2001 LE also has a slow driver's window. It is ONLY when closing and it is directly affected by how COLD it is (ie. no problem in summer, however the colder it gets in Winter, the slower the window closes). This problem is recognized by Nissan. My dealer can "fix" it by manually expanding the size of the channel the window travels in, however this results in a loose or rattling window in the summer. I'm at a real loss on how to deal with this...and Nissan doesn't appear to have a very good solution at this time.
Nov 26, 2002 (5:27 pm)
my pathfinder can't seem to keep an alignment. almost since the day i got it, it seemed to pull a bit to the right.
a few weeks ago while i had it at the dealer for an unreleated issue they did an alignment job on it. for maybe one or two days it seemed straight, but now it is back to pulling to the right.
is this a common thing or not? anything they can do besides aligning it again? i don't travel on any bad roads per say, just normal roads. i've seen cars with 70,000 miles that have never had an alignment done to it and track better than mine with 6,000.
#6085 of 8191 mattman055
Nov 27, 2002 (12:02 pm)
I complained about this on this board earlier. My Pathfinder has never been aligned. If I keep the steering wheel straight, the car heads left...waaaay left. I can't figure out what it is. I've had brake check do an alignment on it 4 times and they have done it perfectly with good test results except when I drive it, I don't see any difference. What kind of tires do you have? I think my tires might be bad even though brake check rotated all the tires and realigned my truck and it still didn't align. If that doesn't fix it, could it be a bad frame on the truck? I bought my car as a demo with 5800 miles on it and hope that it wasn't damaged or wrecked before I bought it.
Nov 27, 2002 (12:32 pm)
I may be wrong but I think that most SUV are very difficult to keep aligned properly. I think that the type of wheel (wide, high wall) and the non-aerodynamic nature of the truck do not help.
Aside from the original factory installation I never could get a good alignment on my 4Runner. My new Pathfinder is pretty straight now but I bet 20$ that when I'll have the tires rotaded or changed or whatever else it'll be somewhat out of alignment for sure despite efforts from my dealer to fix the problem.
A lot of people complained about alignment issues on the 4Runner boards I visited, same thing here, leads me to think it is a SUV issue.