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Nissan Pathfinder, SUV
Nov 25, 2002 (11:45 am)
I'll be over it pretty soon. Gee my Pathfinder is a great truck and has a lot of bang for the buck. I'll steer clear of the 4Runner forum for a while not to tempt myself.
I think it is a bit like changing houses. Once the hype of the new house dies down you kinda miss the old one for a while and then you forget, usually by not passing in front of the old house too often.
You know what is weird, is that I miss my old 4Runner (I see it every week when I pass in front of Nissan dealer) and sometimes I think that I miss the new one too.... But actually it is when I see a 2003 in person that I realize that I've made the right choice !!!! They are weird looking in person I think, weird lines, flares are bad in person etc....
Anyway lets put all this behind us and move on, what do you think ?
Did you get your chrome tip??? Did your mileage get better ? Mine is extremely bad these days, I wonder if it has something to do with the cold weather. Hope not, its cold here 6 months a year !!!!!
I'm still considering the hood deflector, I think the Nissan's one is the nicest but I'm concerned about wind pattern and vibrations.
I saw Pathfinder like mine a couple days ago with a bull bar. It is nice !!! It helps giving the Pathfinder a meaner/rugged look, but I think they are expensive I'll have to see.
#6073 of 8191 Yeah, I tried to fix by myself
Nov 25, 2002 (2:50 pm)
but had no luck this time. The rattling was getting worst so today while doing my 7500 service I decided them to fix all the rattlings. By the way the service manager said that the pathfinder with Navigation has more rattling problems than the normal one. I don't know why is that but it's really interesting to me. They gonna double check and the car will be ready tomorrow, just crossing my fingers and hope they won't make it worse. I went and checked Murano and was suprised with the quality of leather. It's was really nice compare to pathfinder.
#6074 of 8191 rattles and cold weather noises
Nov 25, 2002 (3:37 pm)
I own a 2002 chilkoot pathfinder which up until recently (10,000 km) has been trouble free.
Recently however its developed a small annoying creak or rattle which is really hard to pinpoint. In addition when it is cold on startup it is really noisy ( I think it is the alternator, a noisy bearing ? ). This only lasts for a minute or two. Lastly the drivers seat cushion (front bottom of seat) keeps coming off the metal attachment point under the seat. If anyone has similar complaints ( I've read about the rattles) I would appreciate hearing from you.
P.S. Although I have yet to have a problem re bottoming out ( Never been that loaded) should I be seeking the modification discussed earlier re TBS ? Just installed 4x4 Alpines and so far they have been great !
Nov 26, 2002 (6:39 am)
Mjohnr99 and Intmed99
I can't believe this.....
As I was working actively to forget about the 2003 4Runner and move on with that materialist part of my life what do I see coming in this morning in the lobby of the office building where I work: a 2003 Silver Limited sitting there as a demo..... nice and shinny !!!
It is the 1st time in 10 year that I work here that they park a frikkin car in the lobby as part of a promotional event..... and it had to be a !!##! 2003 4Runner..... Why not an Audi or BMW ?
Ok, ok where's the camera ???
I can't believe this. This whole thing is turning into a big joke against me..... )
That's it, I'm turning into a monk and I'll go in a monestary somewhere far (and not near the Everest) where I'll devote my life to prayer and simplicity....
(The post should have been read on a humerous tone in case you really think I'm going nuts....)
Nov 26, 2002 (6:58 am)
WT: mileage is still about the same: 14/18 CTY/HWY in mostly 2WD flat driving with 93 octane. I plan to remove my Thule rack's load bars (they are great, snap on and off with the Pathfinder fit kit) to see if the mileage gets up to the posted 15/19. [BTW, I think Thule makes the best stuff (first set is going on 15 years!) but they make a lot of wind noise if that is a concern for some.] The Nissan bug deflector will give you full windshield protection. Not sure about the wind pattern/vibration issue, so I opted for that Lund Avenger (see Accessories Board) which is only a low profile hood/fender protector to prevent the chips you describe. There is no vibration at all and the nice thing is you do not need to install the four rubber posts between the hood and deflector - not needed and that way you can still wax under there. I like the bull bar much better than other front end "attachments," but I am not sure I would really need it. So far, trying to stick to functions that I would use, other than the exhaust finisher you speak of. Gave up on that; Gibson, MagnaFlow, etc. . . . tried everyone; nothing is specifically made for a 60 mm (2.34") pipe. Every clamp-on here is 2.25" or 2.5" - and because this is just a minor "looks thing," I was NOT going to pay some exhaust shop to go crazy here - just a truck, not some hot rod. Maybe up in metric country you will have better luck with a simple stainless steel one? Let me know.
normp1: What did the Alpines do for the bass? As I've said, the stock Bose is "nice" all around, but could use more balance in the bass department to make it a nice system without turning the truck into one of these mini-truck music boxes. Question again: Does anyone know if the Pathfinder's stock head unit has "pre-amps" (e.g., RCA like jacks) built in for the addition of an external amplifier to power a simple sub-woofer? I checked out the one external amplifier in the driver's side rear cargo area wall - but without removing the plastic interior wall I can't really tell how it is wired from the head unit. Thanks.
Nov 26, 2002 (7:28 am)
Serendipity? Fate? Don't sweat it. Let someone else be the first adopter and you get it if they work the bugs and styling issues out in a few years. Intmed99 has the perfect plan to wait a few years with his new '02. If Toyota had been fair about the supercharged 3rd gen I originally went after, then I would have still rather had the last of that run. To me, that is another unexpected plus with the '03 LE: last of a good run, hopefully very few TSBs for the '03s (e.g., my temperature display is 100% accurate so far, etc.), and for the cheapest of prices - still can't believe I got the '03 with the new VDC for the same price break that they were selling some of the '02s at (i.e., around ~$1400 under invoice depending how you calculate invoice). I think prices will be even better next month and the financing only gets better too. With the 4-6 grand you saved, if you had bought, for example, YHOO a few months ago you would have doubled your money by now. We had expected to have to spend around $36-37K total for that 4th Gen Sport, so I drool now thinking of getting in on more risky stocks while they are cheap. To me, it is money I can afford to gamble with and if I do it right I can at least double or triple it in the same time that the 4Runner first adopters have lost all that premium they paid plus the depreciation. That is why Nissan was a smart back-up plan and why I always told friends I thought from an economic stand-point they would be fiscally better off saving the premium that Toyota demands and going with the Pathfinder if it met their needs. Yes, Intmed99 is right, you always get what you pay for - IMHO, if you stick with certain reliable brands (and you keep for the long haul IMO) and you can get by on less vehicle and it will do the basic job for you - then you should usually go with the least expensive from a fiscal investment perspective (unless you are rich). I was not rich, but was going 4th Gen because of at least a certain amount of emotion after so many years in used cars. In the end, be glad that you lived up to that fiscal standard and try to ignore any emotion over that 4th Gen Limited . . . which would have been closer to 40K. From 30K to 40K is a huge leap - 10K invested can easily be the 30K for your next vehicle in 5 years; whereas the 10K invested in the 40K vehicle is negative return and would probably only have been marginally better for your honest daily needs (we're not rock crawlers . . ) and may even have left you with huge buyer's remorse when they fix all the "problems" in a few years. Hope that helps.
P.S. I thought we were moving on . . . > (J/K)
#6078 of 8191 2001 Pathfinder 4WD Window problems
Nov 26, 2002 (8:24 am)
I'm wanting to know if anyone else is having this problem. My car windows are continually getting stuck. I have taken the car in three times and each time they just oil it and say the windows are dirty. My car is regularly cleaned and I'm concerned there is a problem with the electrical. The windows start by getting slower and slower and then almost stop. I'm at 20,000 miles and my warranty expires at 30,000 so I'm wanting to get this problem taken care of. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#6079 of 8191 Mjohn and WT...
Nov 26, 2002 (8:28 am)
Shoot, forget about the '03 4Runner, i have my eye on the new GX! Darn, that thing is on every TV channel! I think they had a commercial for it in every commercial break last night on Monday Night Football!
WT...that is just a freak coincidence at your work place. Or is it??
In my opinion, the Pathfinder LE is a great SUV...good at everything. You definitely should keep it for a few years. The new 4runner will have many bugs. The 3rd gen 4Runner underwent 2 major revisions (1999 and 2001) in it's 7-year cycle (1996-2002). Just looking at the steering wheel on '03 4runner Ltd., you can see there are two empty spaces on the steering wheel buttons...could be something interesting down the road.
I feel for you, WT. I am drooling over the GX, even thou i am into off-roading. I must resist because i got my '02 4runner Ltd 4wd (loaded with most accessories & local dealer options--includ. roadside assistance, VIN-imprinting on windows, etc.) at $1000-1500 BELOW invoice! It is simply too good of a deal to throw away on a Lexus GX!
#6080 of 8191 Re:2001 Pathfinder 4WD Window problems
Nov 26, 2002 (10:11 am)
I can't offer any assistance but I can tell you that my 2001 LE with 26K has a rear passenger window that has started getting slower and slower. I haven't taken it in yet and your comments make me wonder if there is some kind of build issue here. Any others experience this?
Nov 26, 2002 (10:53 am)
how fate is powerful.
You guys know I had my doubts over the alst few weeks.
This demo 4Runner is god sent, I am sure !!!
Taking time to look at it from all angles ( I could not sit in it the doors a locked and there is not reps around) it basically confirmed me all the reasons why I freaked last August-September and went for something else.
Basically: it scks.... at least from a design perspecitve but also from a quality perspective.
1) The rear-end is too busy, looks real weird, toyish, overdone.....
2) The flares are too big and I don't like how they cave in at the top
3) The squarish look of the flares does not help
4) I don't like the front lights, nor the way the make the round corner and the way they almost reach the front flares.
5) Fog lights are wimpy
6) Even the mud flaps are wimpy, they are made of very cheap plastics, they look like they come from Walmart....
7) Cladding: the cladding was actually peeling off of the driver's door, I could have ripped it in a second, I could almost insert my little finger in the top left corner the way it was peeling off......
8) The dash is awfull in person, I'm not into round things like that. They stick out too far.
9) I like the shifter stick....
10) The right portion dash is very GM-like, squarish, rather flat
11)The cargo area does not look much more bigger than the pathfinder
12)I don't like the Limited wheels (the concentric circles look cheap)
Well hey.... that is exctly what I needed to move on. Facts instead of perception.....
You know right now I do not regret my move and I think I have made the right choice actually.
I don't think that if I would have had to make the decision today that I would have taken the 4Runner. Really.....
This helps closing the loop guys and it has me worried about the future of the 4Runner. I hope that will not only correct design errors but also up the quality a couple of notch.
Intmed: I'd suggest that you keep your Runner for now, 3rd gen are still very sexy, rugged and quality trucks. I'd give at least a year to the GX to stabilize (the GX is much nicer than the 03 4Runner but we do not get those in Canada).
Now lets move on for real !!!!
(Mjohn: I wanted to move on until I faced this darn truck in the Lobby this morning. Now I swear no tuning back !!!!!)