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#5572 of 8189 Or maybe, just maybe, he'll let it rest .../ QX4 serious recalls by tloke1

Aug 23, 2002 (2:09 am)

Well, I was going to, until I came across this information per a most serious past recall on the Nissan:
 
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 00V410000
YEAR 2000-2001 Nissan Infinity QX4
"Defect: Certain passenger vehicles may have an ignition lock assembly with improperly seated key cylinder cap connector pins. Vibration can cause the connecting pins to loosen and/or fall out, allowing the key cylinder cap to disengage from the key cylinder. If this occurs, the steering wheel lock rod can move and lock the steering wheel."
 
Gasp!! This is far more serious than ALL of the Jeep recalls put together! Talk about not only being stranded, but the crash risk is indeed a scary matter. Yes indeed, those QX4's are incredibly reliable! There is also another recall where the rear hatchback door can break off and cause serious injury to anyone underneath it!! This is on 31,000 2001 models. And this is a vehicle you want to recommend to people over Jeeps? I'd rather have a little gear noise than problems like the above!!!!
 
My only goal is to balance the playing field fairly. My only claims have been that the reliability of the Jeep brand vehicles has improved from "well below average" in 1999 to "well above average" in 2002. That's all. Plain and simple.
 
I think it's important to give honest and accurate advice on these message boards, as they are an important source of information that influences a lot of buyers. It's fine to post your opinion and experience, good or bad, about a particular model of vehicle that you own. That helps everyone as long as the facts are true.
 
BigOrange30 has repeatedly written posts slamming the Jeep Grand Cherokee, for a long period of time now, in different topic areas. His statements at times have been inaccurate and unfair, and based only on the experience of a short ownership period of one Jeep. Because he had problems with that one Jeep, he continually brings this up, month after month, trolling on different newsgroups. Other readers have complained about him as well.
 
What if I took the above Nissan recall information and went on different newsgroups telling everyone to never buy a QX4 because of that and other problems? Would that be fair to the readers and potential buyers? Of course not. But that is what BigOrange is doing, trashing the Jeep due to one bad experience. That doesn't make ALL Jeeps bad, just like the recall above doesn't make all QX4's bad.
 
If you want to compare reliability, then really how much better are the Nissans than the Jeeps? If I were to make a chart of all the problems each vehicle had from 1999 to date, both sides would have plenty of listings, and both sides would have less and less as you progressed to current model years. Sure, the Jeep was worse in 1999. But not any more. The playing field is much more level now, contrary to what BigOrange wants people to think.
 
For new car buyers, buying a Jeep GC or Nissan PF will be NO different as far as the risk of potential problems goes. Either one could be in the shop for a number of reasons. Either one could also not have problems for years 'n years. But the Jeep Grand Cherokee outsells the Pathfinder by a very wide margin, almost 4 to 1 (2002 YTD). That pretty much sums it all up as to which vehicle is the runaway winner between these two models. The overwhelming majority pick the Grand Cherokee. And I could name a hundred reasons why, but I won't go into that. The majority has already spoken.
 

#5573 of 8189 This is not a Jeep board by bigorange30

Aug 23, 2002 (4:08 am)

or even a comparison of Jeep to the Pathfinder board. That makes you appear to be the troller here tloke. Please stop lying about my record of discussions as I have said the same things in other places that I have here. If there have been unfair and inaccurate statements, please show them with links instead of just throwing out an accusation like that. Let them decide for themselves. While I did find the NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 00V410000 you were talking about, you wanted to talk about 2002's and how improved the Jeeps are. And as far as the majority speaking, you're right. Everyone else here except you that has said anything about it has backed up what I have said that the 2002 Pathfinder is much more reliable then the 2002 JGC.
You don't have to look at the JGC board to see how many owners are complaining about them. They even had to create a JGC problems board to handle all of the complaints. I don't see a Pathfinder problem board on this site. There are just not enough complaints to warrant it.

#5574 of 8189 tloke vs. bigorange by jflash

Aug 23, 2002 (4:17 am)

I guess that shaking hands is out of the question but I, for one, would appreciate your burying this thread so that I can read some Pathfinder posts without having to sort through the nastiness.
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#5575 of 8189 Let it rest by smibrad

Aug 23, 2002 (5:19 am)

Hey guys, let it rest! We really don't care about every little TSB that comes out. If you want to continue your childish behaviors, then we would appreciate you taking it off this forum and you can email each other directly.

#5576 of 8189 Terms of Use by tidester

Aug 23, 2002 (8:41 am)

...and I quote ...

While we want to maintain an inviting environment for all members, disruptive conduct, such as off-topic comments in a topic-oriented discussion, is not allowed.

The topic here is Nissan Pathfinder. It is not tloke and it is not bigorange and it is not the Jeep Grand Cherokee!

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#5577 of 8189 ATTN: tloke and bigorange by kmrq

Aug 23, 2002 (9:51 am)

Please argue your relability via e-mail, not on our Comment Area.

#5578 of 8189 Pathfinder problems board. by xplorx4

Aug 23, 2002 (10:03 am)

Um, big-o, the pathfinder problems board is right here

The Pathfinders do have problems, they just don't seem to be that frequent.

By the way, did anyone happen to find interest in gonemoab.com? Or is that concept (4-wheeling a Nissan in Moab) too extreme for most of the folks here?

#5579 of 8189 Thanks for that correction xplorx4 by bigorange30

Aug 23, 2002 (11:42 am)

I apologize for that mistatement.

#5581 of 8189 Noise in dash means... removing the dashboard by crete

Aug 24, 2002 (4:55 pm)

Since I'm a QX4 owner I posted this on that board in June, but I'm hoping some of you Path owners might be able to give me some more feedback on this issue. Since June the noise has become more frequent and annoying.
 
My new 2002 QX4 has had a clicking noise in the dash since i got. I took it to the dealer three times now and each time they have lessened the noise but this third time they have narrowed the noise as coming from the heater core. It seems the heater hoses running through the firewall to the heater core under the dash are moving up/down when the engine has force upon it. The hose connections are hitting the heater core so they've tried tightening the connections but the noise still exists. My dealer says the heater core element needs to be replaced, however to do this they need to remove the entire dashboard. I'm very concerned about having the entire dash removed over a clicking noise which does bother me a little every time the engine accelerates or while going over some bumpy roads.
 
But to have the whole dash removed at this time would leave me wondering if I'm asking for more trouble. The dealer says they will be very careful reinstalling the dash and since it is still under warranty if anything goes wrong it can be checked out. Or I can wait just until my warranty is up and have the dash removed at that time and just live with the noise until then.
 
Folks, I'd appreciate your input on whether to live with the noise for now or take a chance on removing the dash. Has anyone else ever had their dash removed and replaced without further problems.

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