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#5532 of 8191 Re # 5201 Extended Warranties - say what?
Aug 19, 2002 (10:41 pm)
QUOTE - "The Pathfinder will probably never be in the shop. Extended warranties are more useful and much less reliable vehicles like the Jeep Grand Cherokee..." - BigOrange30
BO30, HOW can you possibly make such a ridiculous and unfounded claim that "The Pathfinder will probably never be in the shop"?? (and that Jeeps "will"). You obviously have not read through any the posts in this forum to see that the Pathfinder does indeed have plenty of problems. If you need me to make a list of them I'd be glad to do that. Your own vehicle has already been in the shop, what, twice now? And you also know about the long list of TSB's for prior model Pathfinders. So since YOU bought the 2002 PF, NOW all of a sudden they will be 100.00% reliable?
*IF* Nissan HAD the confidence in their products, they would offer a FREE extended warranty, just like Jeep does for their new models (7 Years/100K!!). But Nissan KNOWS that their Pathfinders WILL be in the repair shop in the future, hence the $1000+ charge for the extended warranty.
While the PF is a reasonably reliable vehicle and no doubt many will not see a shop for some years to come, on the other side there will be plenty that will indeed be in the shop in the future, that you can count on.
#5533 of 8191 Many on this board can verify what I say
Aug 20, 2002 (3:01 am)
Basic warranties are mainly for something that may be well designed but may not have been put together properly in the factory that made the part or the factory that assembled the car. The problems will likely happen once and be fixed permanently one time. An extended warranty, on the other hand, is for protecting you against poor designs that repeatedly fail. A person often sells this vehicle before the warranty runs out because they know there will be signicant problems later.
While no vehicle is problem free, the Pathfinder or QX4 will not be in the shop for $1000 worth of repairs during its first 100,000 miles that would justify the extended warranty. What do other people think?
Yes, my QX4 has been back once to replace the door welts. They were probably put on wrong at the factory. That was a very minor problem, IMO. It does not involve any moving or critical part.
#5534 of 8191 2003 Pathfinder Pictures - Any?
Aug 20, 2002 (6:27 am)
I have noticed that several Nissan Dealerships have already received the '03 models, but there are no pictures available. Are they hiding these vehicles? Does any one know where I can see a picture of the '03 with possibly the new colors?
#5535 of 8191 Extended Warranties
Aug 20, 2002 (6:46 am)
Most extended warranties for appliances and cars alike are intended to make money for dealers not protect owners from financial disaster.
There are some vehicles that need them, but most don't. Check out consumer reports....not this board for the truth about extended warranties and long term reliability...
#5536 of 8191 Extended warranties
Aug 20, 2002 (11:20 am)
I purchased an extended warranty for my truck. What a waste of money. Naturally, I failed to read the fine print on the back of the warranty form when I bought it; I just "trusted" the dealer.
Lo and behold, when I attempted to take advantage of the warranty when the struts on my truck started leaking at 50,000 miles, I was told that the warranty doesn't cover that. It only covers the struts if they "snapped in half". HA! What a crock!
A couple of months ago, my "check engine" light came on. Turns out the "EVAP canister" was bad. Covered? NOPE. It's a "wear item", just like brakes, spark plugs, and oil filters, I guess.
As for the need for an extended warranty, I'd probably never buy another one. Nearly all warranty-covered repairs are going to occur within the basic (3/36; 5/60) coverage anyway.
And I'd have to say that beyond the standard warranties, the likelihood of a $1000 repair occuring will be very small. And even if you could make a warranty claim on a repair that might normally cost $300, you'd need THREE such claims just to recover the cost of the warranty itself.
So if you DO get a warranty, make sure you read the entire document and FULLY UNDERSTAND the limitations before you commit.
Bottom line, I'd have to agree with jeckles and bigorange30.
NOTE: I can only offer experience with my Nissan; I'm not so certain that I would not need an extended warranty on a domestic vehicle. My truck will probably reach 100,000 miles next month, and I have yet to spend $1000 on unplanned maintenance that would be covered under any warranty (beyond the 3/36;5/60).
#5537 of 8191 Extended Warranties
Aug 20, 2002 (1:43 pm)
I will certainly agree that for the most part extended warranties are a total rip-off. First of all, when you buy one of the extended warranties they don't even kick in until after the manufacturer's warranty ends - that could be 3-4 years or longer. And when you add the total to the total amount financed you are in many cases paying interest on the warranty cost as well. What many buyers don't realize is that for a lot of these extended warranties, IF you want one, you do NOT have to purchase it at the time you purchase your vehicle. Most dealers want you to think that, but in the past I have asked point-blank if I could pay for it "later" and the answer is usually "yes", as long as you by it before the factory warranty runs out.
And as xplorx4 noted, study the limitations if you feel you have to have an extended warranty. And even then you may run into hassles if the problem lies in a "gray" area. Plus, some warranties are transferable if you sell the vehicle while others are not.
And remember that dealers can be very negotiable on these since they are mostly pure profit. Usually the last person you see in the purchase process (in the "Finance/paperwork" office) is heavily commissioned and will twist your arm very hard to try and sell you one of these (along with undercoating and fabric guard "protection").
Aug 20, 2002 (3:58 pm)
with tloke1's reversal. First he chews me out for recommending that someone not buy an extended warranty and now he is against them. What gives here?
#5539 of 8191 BigO- tloke's issue
Aug 20, 2002 (5:10 pm)
I think tloke1 was commenting on your statement that basically said something like 'Nissans won't be in the shop [for warranty repairs] and Jeeps will be; therefore Nissans don't need extended warranties and Jeeps do."
If you compare the 5/60 powertrain warranty on the PF with the 7/100 on the JGC, you could make either of two conclusions:
1) Jeeps don't need an extended warranty because they're covered by the basic warranty, which is the same term as Nissan's extended. Seems like a pretty good deal, since the Nissan ext. warranty costs $1000.
2) Jeeps need the extended warranty because they're more likely to break down between 5/60 and 7/100 than the Pathfinder, which, if hasn't broken down before 60K, won't break down within 100K. So Nissan need not include it for free, and dealers are free to "sell" ext. warranties and make pure profit.
Blah. Whatever. This is nonsense anyway....
#5540 of 8191 My head is spinning too, BigOrange30
Aug 20, 2002 (5:33 pm)
QUOTE from BigOrange30: "First he chews me out for recommending that someone not buy an extended warranty"
Say what?? Please explain, WHERE did I say this? Where did I "chew you out for not recommending an extended warranty"?
QUOTE from BigOrange30: "and now he is against them. What gives here?"
??? What reversal??? I have NEVER been FOR extended warranties. You must be confusing my posts with someone else's.
#5541 of 8191 Pathfinder reliability after 60K??
Aug 20, 2002 (5:42 pm)
I tend to disagree with the statements made here that IF a Pathfinder has no major problems up until 60k then they will be problem-free until 100k or beyond. Hogwash. Just look at the long, long list of TSB's on PF's from a few years back. Hardly a "perfectly reliable vehicle".
For anyone out there buying a new SUV and looking at either a 2002 or newer Jeep, or a 2002 or newer Pathfinder (and other vehicles too), your chances are just the same that one or the other will or will not have problems.