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#2005 of 8191 Pathfinder Test Drive - Observations
Mar 26, 2001 (5:26 pm)
I test drove a 2001 PF LE for the second time. Here are my observations. By the way, currently, I own a 2000 Maxima GLE which I love. Hence, I have no axe to grind against Nissan.
1. Nissan is heavily discounting the Pathfinder. More than I would have expected for a 2001 vehicle that has been significantly improved. For example: new engine and transmission.
2. The vehicle rides like a car. Very smooth ride.
3. The car is noisey. Interior noise levels are higher than the Toyota Highlander that I test drove a couple of weeks ago. The Highlander has an even smoother, car-like ride than the Pathfinder. I test drove an Infiniti QX4 which is much quieter and a little smoother than the Pathfinder.
4. Gas mileage for the Pathfinder is medicore. Especially, considering it requires premium fuel. The Highlander gets much better gas mileage, and only requires regular fuel. This is a significant plus for the Highlander, given the cost of fuel.
5. The Pathfinder has a very modest payload capacity of 795 pounds. This equates to approximately 4 adults and a briefcase. The Highlander has a payload capacity of 1100 pounds. Not bad for a car-based SUV.
6. The Pathfinder has very little headroom above the rear seats. I'm 5'10" and my head scraped the ceiling with the rear seat backs in the fully upright position. Of course the rear seats recline, but you should not have to recline them to prevent your head from bumping the ceiling. I'd hate to have someone taller than me in the rear seat and then hit a pothole. I'd feel sorry for their head.
7. The rear cargo area also has a tight distance between the floor and the ceiling. Much smaller than you would expect. The Highlander has a wider distance between the rear floor and the ceiling. This could limit the ability to carry some cargo.
8. The rear seats have very little leg and foot room. Too tight for a $30,000 + vehicle.
9. The PF is using rear drum brakes instead of 4 wheel disc brakes. My 1988 Honda had rear drum brakes. What's up with this Nissan?
10. The rear doors don't open very wide. They force you to rub your clothes against the rear door/wheel wells as you enter or exit the vehicle. Thus getting your clothes dirty.
Overall, I think the Pathfinder is nice, but it falls a little short. Hopefully, the next major re-design will address these issues. Nissan is a good company that sells it's vehicles at decent prices. However, for $30,000 I expect a little more.
Mar 26, 2001 (7:15 pm)
First of all, I think this is a great board. Many posters here seem very knowledgeable. Secondly, a vehicle as fine as the 2001 PF deserves a board like this. It is awesome to share our experiences with a work of art like the PF.
With 2 kids, I just had to trade my 97 Acura 1.6 EL. I was getting claustrophobic everytime I had to use this car. We batted around the idea of trading to a Sienna or Odyssey. A combination of poor experiences with a 93 Merc Villager and the relatively small cost increase to get the PF led us to purchasing this SUV.
Now the finanicals for those of you who are interested. Bear in mind all figures are in Canadian dollars. Also note the different features in a Canadian SE trim >>> these include: AWD, power moonroof, fender flares, rear spoiler, upgraded suede-like upholstery, aluminum step rails and 65 series tires. What the Canadian SE lacks in comparison to the LE is leather, climate control and power seats. NAV and mobile TV are not avaiable in Canada from Nissan.
- 3,600.00 Discount
500.00 GAS & A/C Tax
150.00 Dealer Prep
5,731.80 Tax 15%
$43,943.80 Cdn on the road
Any fellow Canadians think this is a fair deal. At the prevailing outrageous exchange rates, it is undoubtedly a great deal for Americans!
P.S. They gave me $13,300.00 for my 97 Acura 1.6 EL Premium which had 75,000 km on the odo. Car had leather, roof, rear spoiler, auto tranny & security. For the Americans, an Acura 1.6EL is a glorified Honda Civic 4-door sedan.
All comments greatly appreciated.
#2008 of 8191 oakley5
Mar 26, 2001 (7:23 pm)
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#2009 of 8191 different models of same pathfinder
Mar 26, 2001 (8:20 pm)
This may not make sense but here goes. I recently bought my loaded SE model (leather, sunroof, side airbags, mats, bodyside moulding... for 27,900. They also gave me 2000. more for my van than any other dealer so I am very happy with the deal. I was looking on edmunds to compare msrp, invoice and actual price and I noticed there were two listings for the SE 2WD 4dr SUV . One was 3.5L 6cyl 5M(made in Japan. The other was 3.5L 6cyl 4A(made in Mexico-(or maybe just the opposite.. Anyway one was 1000. less than the other. I was just curious to find out which one I had purchased and if it effected resale or trade-in later.. Did anybody understand that or know what I was talking about?
Mar 26, 2001 (8:40 pm)
Does anyone have a remote starter installed on their 01 PF ???
I was told by my dealer this was a hit and miss proposition due to the computer chip embbedded keys. I'm wondering if he is full of *** !!!
#2011 of 8191 heated seats/trans
Mar 26, 2001 (8:55 pm)
scottc3: There is 2 different settings high/low and I think the service manual states that the temp reaches 95 to 113 F. It does take a few minutes to reach that temp. About the transmission,most Nissan auto trans do roll backwards on a steep incline in drive with the engine running at an idle. It is not a problem whatsoever with the transmission. Nissan (JATCO) does not have a sprag (one-way) clutch in first gear. There might be web sight that goes into detail but there is not enough room here. Cheers.......
Mar 26, 2001 (11:52 pm)
Although I knew I couldn't afford the Nav system I was tempted by it until I found out it doesn't track your position. It's more or less a fancy map CD that shows you routes from point A to point B. You can update your present position manually though. As neat as that may be its not much more than a really fancy rand mcnally map. My advice for the $1800 is buy a light weight notebook with a DVD Rom Drive with a 14" screen for $1600.(an example is the 5lb Dell Inspiron 4100 series) Then buy a kick butt Map CD. Now you have pretty close to the same thing, except now you also have a nice substitute for the $1200 entertainment system since the notebook will play DVD's on a nice 14" screen which is much bigger than the one on the factory entertainment system.
Not to mention all the other uses you can get out of a notebook computer. If you already have a notebook with a DVD, then you just saved $3000! I'm using my notebook/nav system/entertainment system to type this message. I think I will put the $3000 I saved toward an 11" GPS based telescope that will automatically point to and track any planet, nebula or galaxy in the sky. A perfect toy to pack into the SUV for a trip into the mountains for some serious dark sky observing. My 2 cents anyway! We are going to pick up our Pathfinder LE with everything except these discussed options on Saturday, can't wait!
#2013 of 8191 Response to #1937 Diff Models of Same PF - Linley
Mar 27, 2001 (12:56 am)
All PFs are made in Japan. period! The difference between 3.5L 6cyl 5M and 3.5L 6cyl 4A is the transmission. 3.5L 6 cycl 5M has a manual transmission while 3.5L 6 cycl 4A has an automatic transmission. The manual transmission costs less than the automatic transmission. Hence the difference in price that you alluded to. I hope this helps.
Mar 27, 2001 (3:38 am)
I would have to disagree with you about the Nav system. I have one in my new PF and it does track your position!!! True it does have a glorified map, but as your are driving it knows exactley where you are. You can pull up your exact latitude and longitude...Not sure where you got your info from...but the PF Nav system is GPS based so it does track your exact position...Any questions, let me know.