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#1510 of 6471 mom - I agree with eversons. I don't think anyone will pay at or near MSRP.
Oct 19, 2001 (4:23 am)
Most dealers have a lot of 2001 models leftover, so they are not anxious to load up on 2002 models and make their 2001 models less marketable.
There are very few 2WD GM models available, so you may have to order one if that is what you want. Regarding a 2002 model, you should be able to get a better price if you order, since the dealer does not have to pay anything to stock the vehicle on his lot.
For GM models, many people can get a "supplier discount", which is about 5% over the GMS
(GM out of stock price for GM employees), if you work for a company which supplies parts/materials to GM.
Check the new car TMV(True Market Value) on this site's new car feature to get a realistic price in your zip code. By March or April you should have no trouble getting a new SUV at or near invoice price, especially if the economy is still in the dumps then.
I ordered a new 2002 Yukon in mid-July and took delivery on August 30th. Six weeks is still probably a good estimate, but you should allow 2 months, unless you want something that is "on constraint" for some reason (GM can't get the part, has trouble with the part, etc.).
I let my email do the walking when I was in the buying process. Check the local dealer websites (they all have them) and email your request. Try the bigger metropolitan areas first, then you will have something to use for comparison with your local dealer. But, I would not do this until you are 2 months away from actually buying your SUV or you will have junk email and phone calls from the dealers for months. You might even look out of state (Michigan?, Kentucky?) once you check out the sales tax/vehicle registration regulations in Ohio for out of state purchases. You might save some significant $$ just on sales tax. If neighboring states have lower sales tax than Ohio, the dealers in those nearby states will probably already be familiar with facilitating your purchase for registration in Ohio. Even a couple of percentage points difference in sales tax can be $600 - $1000 savings on a $30K- $40K vehicle.
I also hate purchasing vehicles. I find that knowing exactly what you want by having a listing of the GM order codes(you can get them off any website - here at Edmunds, Kelly Blue Book, NADA, autobytel, cars.com, etc.) helps in talking with the dealers. The GM buypower website is probably the definitive source on this.
Also, I found that GMC dealers don't like to deal on Yukons as much as Chevrolet dealers will deal on Tahoes. Maybe it is because there are fewer Yukons than Tahoes made. I don't know why that is, but I'll bet you can still get that Yukon at or near invoice if you try.
In the future, I would get a GM Master Card if you don't already have one. I buy everything with that Card (groceries, gas, Home Depot,etc.) and always accrue $500 per year in GM discount dollars against a new vehicle purchase. If you spend a lot, you can also get a Citibank Mastercard and get a 1% rebate of your purchases against a new car purchase. Check out their websites.
Just curious, what kind of options are your planning for your new Yukon? As mentioned above, I think their standard automatic climate control is a big selling feature and leans me toward Yukon vs. Tahoe.
#1511 of 6471 questionable dealer fees
Oct 19, 2001 (4:59 am)
We are attempting to close a deal on a new Denali.
Suddenly $952.50 in marketing & advertising fees show up on invoice. Dealer is advising this is on all GMC vehicles. We've never seen this fee when purchasing vehicles.
Has anyone purchased GMC recently and paid these fees????
Oct 19, 2001 (5:35 am)
I bought my 2001 Tahoe LT, all options except Autoride, plus a dealer installed TV/VCR, for $37,500 which was about $300 over invoice for the truck and almost free for the TV/VCR (which was listed at $1,700!!)
That included the dealer rebate. I probably could've gotten a few more bucks off but I was leaving for a trip within days and needed the truck and my wife loved the color (Redfire mettalic with Beige leather). We got .09% financing for four years
Took the truck on a 3500 mile round trip-loved it, except the four wheel drive light came on-back to the dealer)
Love this truck though!!
Oct 19, 2001 (5:46 am)
This is great info. Although my husband and I have purchased and leased new cars (Jeep GC, Toyotas), we've always bought from dealer stock...never special-ordered. I love the idea of negotiating via email rather than at the dealership. Just to clarify a few things: when you send the email with the request of the vehicle and options, colors etc. that you want, do you also offer the price you're willing to pay? If the dealer accepts, does this price apply even if the car needs to be special-ordered? Or do you simply state in the email request that you would like to special-order the car if it is not on the lot? How does the process work if we negotiate a price and then decide to lease based on the agreed-upon price?
As for options, not sure if running boards are standard but we want those, leather would be nice, climate control that you mentioned sounds great, pewter color. Other than that, I'm not too picky......currently driving a 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee so a new car will be fantastic!
Oct 19, 2001 (7:07 am)
When i ordered my silverado i actually paid under invoice so no you do not and should not pay msrp
#1515 of 6471 dealer fees
Oct 19, 2001 (9:31 am)
Yes, you will see advertising fees on all invoices. This is why Edmunds cautions that the dealer's actual invoice may be more than theirs, as they can't predict what these fees will be. Accept that they will be there, and negotiate your best deal accordingly. These should not be "added" on after you reach the price.
It should also be noted that these fees can vary on identical vehicles depending on the dealer and the delivery date among other things...My dealer had to trade for my 01' Silverado, so I was suprised when the Invoice was about $50 more than the identical one on his lot. When I finally got the truck, it was scratched, so he had to trade with another dealer for the color I wanted. This other dealers advertising and coop fees were lower than the first 2. Having said all this, I think that the fees on my silverado were about $300, and like $350 on my Tahoe, so yours do seem high.
#1516 of 6471 Marketing Fee (cwuertz1)
Oct 19, 2001 (9:34 am)
The dealer you are buying the Denali from may always *try* to charge this fee, but it is not something that
GM charges. A lot of dealers have "handling" fees, as well as "marketing/advertisement" fees, but most
of these are negotiable. I recently purchased a '01 Tahoe Z71, and only payed $100 as a dealer "prep/handling"
fee. They charged this amount on every vehicle they sell, but it goes straight into the dealer's pocket.
Almost a thousand dollars sounds ridiculous to me. The most I've ever seen at a dealer around here is $300.
#1517 of 6471 5.3L Tahoe "bassbuster" and dardson1
Oct 19, 2001 (10:20 am)
I pull a 19' SeaRay with my 2001 Tahoe LT with a 5.3L engine. GAS mileage is 15MPG on a long trip, 1500 miles one way, pulling the boat. Tahoe handles this nicely you don't know you are pulling anything.
Mileage without the boat on a trip is 18.5 and for general driving about it 16.5 to 17 unless I get heavy on the passing and it goes out the tank like you have a leak.
Oct 19, 2001 (10:41 am)
no prep fee
no doc fee
no ad fee
no nothing but the price of the actual truck. Place i got it from doesnt charge extra fees (they are a small dealership)
#1519 of 6471 Thanks to dardson1 (re 1361, 1363)
Oct 19, 2001 (6:20 pm)
I have been out for a few days so i could not acknowledge responses. Will crawl underneath it tomorrow and try to shake things out. I have 30 days/1000 miles from dealer. I will take it back soon to see if they can diagnose.