8984 messages,
Last post on Dec 31, 2012 at 2:53 PM
You are in the
Toyota Sequoia Forum.
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Sequoia, SUV
#8376 of 8984 2005 Sequoia or Wait for 2006?
by baseballmom97
Nov 28, 2004 (9:27 am)
I actually have several questions here. My lease on a 2002 Yukon will be up in January and I need to replace it with an '05 Yukon or Sequoia. We've loved the Yukon and it's given us no trouble in the first 30,000 miles. We're thinking of buying this time around and would rather own a Toyota than American-made (good past ownership experiences with Toyota/Acura cars). So here are the questions:
1) Should we extend our lease for a year on the Yukon and wait for the new design on the '06 Toyota? I'm disappointed because I really thought both the Sequoia and Yukon would have come out with the fold-flat 3rd row seats by this time.
2) Is it better to lease or buy? My husband isn't convinced it's better to buy although he owns his '99 Acura RL and plans to drive it awhile to 100,000 miles. I think it's fine to buy a Toyota and keep it 7 years but probably wouldn't invest in a GMC truck.
3) What are the main differences as far as cargo and seating room and comfort between the two vehicles. Does the second row in Sequoia fold flat like the Yukon? Is there more legroom for people in the third row of the Seq than the Yukon? How would you compare the comfort level of both?
Thanks! I really hope someone can answer these questions!
#8378 of 8984 Re: 2005 Sequoia or Wait for 2006? [baseballmom97]
by oac
Nov 28, 2004 (1:22 pm)
Just my thoughts on your questions:
1) Should we extend our lease for a year on the Yukon and wait for the new design on the '06 Toyota? I'm disappointed because I really thought both the Sequoia and Yukon would have come out with the fold-flat 3rd row seats by this time.
The new redesign for the Sequoia won't be here until the MY'07 release, since the '05 represent a small tweak in the front and rear facias and it typically takes Toyota another 6 releases to come with a brand new design. In the case of the Seq, released Oct 2000 so expect a complete re-do circa 2006 summer/fall or thereabouts.
2) Is it better to lease or buy? My husband isn't convinced it's better to buy although he owns his '99 Acura RL and plans to drive it awhile to 100,000 miles. I think it's fine to buy a Toyota and keep it 7 years but probably wouldn't invest in a GMC truck.
Leasing saves you money upfront (in the short-term) and allows you to trade-out into new vehicles every other 36 months or so. Buying a Toyota and holding for 7 years is probably slightly better than the comparable GMC over the same length of time... by historical standards. Your call here. Time over money....
3) What are the main differences as far as cargo and seating room and comfort between the two vehicles. Does the second row in Sequoia fold flat like the Yukon? Is there more legroom for people in the third row of the Seq than the Yukon? How would you compare the comfort level of both?
Both are fine trucks. Their dimensions are comparable as well (see link below). What differentiates both, imo, are the dated designs of the GMC (interior and exterior), access to third-row seating better in the Seq., and maybe the leg room may be a slight nod to the Seq. The Seq's DOHC 32V VVT-i 282hp motor is light-years ahead of the very dated 16V OHV 4.8L 285hp motor in the base Yukon. Maybe go up to the big 6.0L in the Denali to get more umph..... However, combined with the option levels you can get on the Denali trim, those of the GMC will provide you more options than on the Yota, and more creature comforts as well. I'll say both trucks are solid performers, and either one of these trucks will serve you well. Oh, you'll probably do better price-wise with the Yukon
See the comparo features/specs here from Edmunds
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmunds/VehicleComparison;jsessio- - - nid=BqzhGHO0ficeCUbWaGbt3htmr6d23FA7ZKssxhn582PTf9l1kkAE!-1914811- - - 638?basestyleid=100273874&styleid=100334204&maxvehicles=5- - - &refid=&op=3&tab=specs
Hope these helps
#8379 of 8984 Re: 2005 Sequoia or Wait for 2006? [oac]
by baseballmom97
Nov 28, 2004 (2:58 pm)
Thank you for the detailed reply, oac. I'm actually thinking of the Sequoia SR5 with leather so price would be more in line with the Yukon. After browsing around the site today, I'm throwing the Nissan Armada into the mix. It does have that fold-flat seat! Any thoughts? Thanks!
#8380 of 8984 baseballmom97
by wwest
Nov 28, 2004 (9:04 pm)
Life's short, eat desert first...!!
#8381 of 8984 Sequoia vs. Yukon
by 714cut
Nov 28, 2004 (11:06 pm)
I'm not sure but I believe the Yukon is all new next year as well. I've seen some spy photos and they may address some of their shortcomings. Just to thicken the plot!
I've read that the Armada is not up to snuff interior and material wise, but probably has the best engine for now. That is if you can get past the styling (I can't but do find the new Pathfinder quite nice).
#8382 of 8984 Re: 2005 Sequoia or Wait for 2006? [baseballmom97]
by oac
Nov 28, 2004 (11:10 pm)
The Nissan Armada ? I truly do not know much about this truck except to say that as a former Nissan car owner, I'd expect the engine and chassis to be a good one while the build may not be up to Toyota level... OTOH, GM and Toyota has more years building full-size trucks than Nissan, so take that for whatever it is .... Overall, I'd say that the Armada is way too new on the market to make any real long term prognosis.
Sorry, I don't have much to offer on this one....
ps: Although my '01 Seq SR5 has been flawless through 57K miles (except for the weak front brakes that had to be fixed under warranty due to recall by Toyota), I am looking to trade-out to an LX in the immdeiate future - the wife's wish
So, like you I am truck shopping, the difference is I know exactly what I am looking to buy....
#8383 of 8984 Re: 2005 Sequoia or Wait for 2006?
by husky92
Nov 30, 2004 (4:43 pm)
We own an '03 Sequoia SR5. At that time, it was an easy decision. Adding the Armada to the mix makes it difficult while the '05 refreshing of the Sequoia makes it even more attractive. You can now get heated seats in the SR5 and the Limited now has memory seats and the 5 speed auto gets about 1 mpg better mileage while delivering slightly more power (although towing capacity is not improved).
The Armada has an excellent powertrain and is now in it's second model year. I would definitely test drive the Armada if I were you. If you need to tow something, it may be your best choice with a 9100 lb towing capacity although the Sequoia will handle most small boats and trailers. Big knock on the Armada from what I heard has been that it is loud which is definitely a strong point of the Sequoia. Maybe the QX56 is quieter although much more money I'm sure.
You might want to do more research on the when the re-design is due. I believe what you are seeing on this board is speculation. I remember buying a '97 Civic because I knew the comparable Acura Integra would be due for a re-design in '98 (based on last redesign for the '94 model year)since Honda always re-designed their cars every 4 years (yeah right). The Integra stuck around until '02 I believe.
Dec 01, 2004 (12:02 pm)
My husband and I drove an '05 Sequoia today and I really liked it. He wasn't more impressed with it than the Yukon, however ultimately it's my choice since I drive it and the price compares very closely with the Yukon. We found out that Toyota is giving $2000 cash-back to the dealer right now on '04 and possibly '05 as well (probably just on the '05) Does that pretty much mean that we can offer invoice on the car and the dealer really doesn't have to make anything on this??? Hubby thinks I'm wrong but I've been reading Edmunds for awhile and I think this is a fair deal. They make $2000 just for us signing the papers and taking the car off the lot. Also, we have pretty much decided it is worth it for us to lease for 39 months and we come out financially even and get to upgrade to a new one at that time. We definitely need to make the deal first and then get the lease prices off the deal, correct? Thanks!
#8385 of 8984 Re: Sequoia Test-drive [baseballmom97]
by ttc
Dec 01, 2004 (6:51 pm)
I have just got a "internet price" from a dealer and he said the customer cash incentive is $750 for 05 Sequoia.
I am very much interested to know if $2000 cash-back to the dealer is really true or not? anybody know?