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Toyota Sequoia, SUV
#7950 of 8984 kennynmd and droll1
Jan 29, 2004 (8:03 am)
I am currently averaging 12 mpg on my Sequoia, but My truck is brand new (have had it for only 5 days now with roughly 100 miles) and the weather here in the Chicagoland area has been horrible with snow and temperatures around zero. The Sequoia barely gets a chance to warm up during my 13 mile drive between home and work. Most folks on this board have reported much better mileage figures, but I assume their trucks are well broken in and they are driving in better conditions with at least some highway mileage.
Tomorrow I will be taking the truck on a business trip to Terre Haute, IN. This trip (roughly 500 miles round trip) is mostly highway miles, although there may be some snow, and the high temperature tomorrow is expected to peak out at 5 F. I will report back this weekend and post my highway mileage.
Regarding the incentives, this site posts them if they are applicable to your area. Back when I originally purchased my Sequoia (bought it in late September and it took 4 months to receive the truck), they were incentizing the ‘03s with $1,000 factory to dealer incentives. I might have bough an ’03 if I didn’t have such a specific set of color and option requirements that couldn’t even be found together on any of the ‘04s on the lots in this area at the time.
Droll1, with regard to “major restyling” of the Sequoia in 2006 and your statement that the Sequoia will be 5 years old in its current form by then: Remember that we are talking about Toyota here, and a truck at that. You might consider the Camry, which has been around in basically its same form since the early ‘90s. I would expect Toyota to offer an alternative engine (bigger, not smaller) and maybe put a navigation system or some other bells and whistles into the interior of the truck, and possibly flat folding third row seats (possibly well worth the wait by themselves). Don’t expect a major body, size, or running gear redesign. They generally address the competition with these minor updates, and the Sequoia already beats the competition on the technical aspects of the 4WD system and the reliability of the running gear. They are just a little behind on some of the creature comfort aspects of the interior.
Based on the past 15 years of the Camry and particularly the Land Cruiser, I wouldn’t expect the 2006 Sequoia to be noticeably different from the current models to the untrained eye. Definitely not a difference on the scale of the latest change to the Explorer or Expedition.
Jan 29, 2004 (9:38 am)
All Toyota needs to do is offer a bigger optional engine, nav, update the interior and go to the 5 speed tranny found in the LC. Oh yeah, memory seats. IRS would be nice but I don't really care since the thing rides so nice anyway. Besides the live axle is tougher.
Jan 29, 2004 (11:35 am)
Toyota won't do it.. With all these upgrades INCLUDING a 5 speed tranny, who would ever buy the LC.. I would have been happy if I could have gotten dual front temp controls. I'll bet when they put in the nav system they figure in dual temp controls.. of course they won't do anything till after my 2004 is delivered.
#7953 of 8984 Upgrades -- Toyota won't do it..
Jan 29, 2004 (1:48 pm)
Steve: Actually, there has been talk on this site regarding the retirement of the Land Cruiser, even as a Lexus, in favor of an upgrade to the Sequoia. Your statement, “who would ever buy the LC”, is exactly what everyone is saying to themselves. When I first looked at the Sequoia, that is what I thought. I immediately decided that Toyota had to be thinking the same thing. The Land Cruiser is an overpriced relic at this point.
BTW, Who is buying the LC? Not North Americans (I don't think). Probably just Austrailians, Central and South Americans, and Africans. It seems that the LC still competes with the RR Defender in some of these areas.
I also like the solid rear axle and differential housing. I have always loved the way Toyota (and Nissan for that matter) stuck with the single piece construction on this part instead of the pipe in socket design of the American trucks.
Jan 29, 2004 (7:43 pm)
In order to get the sunroof in the Sequoia you MUST order the one of the upgraded wheel packages ,....which I wasn't planning on doing.
So now I need to decide if it is worth the extra money at all to have the sunroof. Since I was ordering the trailer hitch separate getting the the wheel package works out to an extra $1000 I didn't want to spend.
Who likes, dislikes or doesn't care?
Jan 29, 2004 (9:05 pm)
Ordered mine with no sunroof, did get the wheel package. No sunroof for me for the following reasons. I keep my cars for many years 10+ if they still work. Past cars had sunroofs. Long term, seals eventually dry out and start to leak, Hotter in summer and colder in winter, another possible source for wind noise etc., My son hates the sun in his eyes, had one in my Explorer had to keep cover on/closed all the time he was in it. Personal experience, only me in the cars, loved having sunroof open for ventilation. Actual use, mostly wife and kids, never open, too many "possible" negatives to outweigh the positives for me. Some people have complained about rail alignment problems and rattles from the sunroof on the Sequoia. My Explorer went back to dealer 4 times for sunroof leaking they changed every seal and still had problems. It used to leak in winter, snow would melt, pool by edge of glass, refreeze and force itself under glass, next day sun would melt and leak from where it went through.
Wheel package yes, Liked the 17" rims style (especially over steel), spare is the same rim, 5 tire rotations, Prefer the look of "factory" dark tinted glass all around, prewired 7 pin connector for towing with connector inside for brake controller, Larger alternator for powering accessories,
#7956 of 8984 Motortrend comparison
Jan 29, 2004 (11:38 pm)
The latest Motortrend has a comparison of 5 full size SUVs, Chevy Tahoe, Ford Expedition, Dodge Durango, Toyota Sequoia, and Nissan Pathfinder Armada. Although the Sequioa is the second oldest model in the comparison, it finished second to the Durango which is brand new. Of course it got marked down for bland styling and weak engine.
Jan 30, 2004 (5:21 am)
If for no other reason.....to get rid of that ridiculous overhead console! The sunroof in the Sequoia is absolutely HUGE!! If you like them, it's nice to have. Personally we don't use ours much but with the sliding liner it's super quiet and well insulated for summer and winter! As far as the seals drying out and leaking. Factory sunroofs DON'T rely on rubber seals to keep things waterproof. They "manage" the water by routing it through drains. Rubber seals are mostly for sound deadening.
Jul 19, 2002 (10:06 pm)
Raddboy is right it is a very large sunroof! For the console, doesn't everybody wear 7 different pair of sunglasses? What were they thinking? My Explorer was factory roof, had the drains to route water away but was a twist up, not slide back one. The rubber seals actually sealed the glass but left a small gap for water on outside edge of seal so it could get to the drain channel. The rest of mine were all aftermarket so same deal. As I said for me, the cons outweighed. Granted its well insulated if the sliding liner is closed, but why would you want it closed if you had the sunroof? That's part of what annoyed me on the Explorer. Having the roof and having to keep it closed. I think you also lose 1 1/2" to 2" of headroom in the second row (not that matters a lot because there is plenty, ESPECIALLY for my 3 1/2 year old). I opted to save $1,000 on the Sequoia and not get frustrated with it. Now I just need to buy 6 more sunglasses and I can make use of the overhead storage!
Jan 30, 2004 (6:59 am)
This is the first vehicle I have ever had with a sunroof (not counting my MR2 Spyder), we love it. It adds a feeling of scenery and space when its open. No good for freeway driving, but on short trips around town and other pleasure driving it gives a good open feeling. The glass is very tinted so if you have the cover open it does not "bake" you. You have to have another window open or you will get the buffeting noise, but you would get that if any "one" window was open. It was one of the features we had on our want list for a new car.