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#61 of 1350 Trooper aftermarket third row seat by bluedevils Jan 19, 2001 (3:54 pm)
I think the company's name is Little Passenger Seats. I've heard good things about the build quality and fabric (closely matches the original factory upholstery), but I don't think any of their seats fold down.   I would have no safety fears with those seats, but personally I don't want to sacrifice that much cargo room in my Trooper.
#62 of 1350 Trooper prices by bluedevils Jan 19, 2001 (4:01 pm)
True, the prices paisan quoted are for 2000 Troopers, not 2001. They are realistic prices, though I don't think dealers in all parts of the country (e.g. here in Detroit) will go quite that low. However, Isuzu will have incentives on the 2001 models very soon, and the amounts will increase throughout the model year, just as they have on Troopers for the past several years. A realistic price point when buying a Trooper is dealer invoice minus any current manufacturer incentive.   C'mon folks, have you seen a Trooper? Do you have any idea how large and well-built it is? Even though you're talking about last year's model, the prices he quoted are insanely low. I can think of very few reasons why you would buy any other SUV than a Trooper with your $20,000-28,000.   Getting back on topic, the XL-7 sounds like a pretty good package and a decent value, assuming it comes in well under the 25k range. 2.7L 6-cylinder seems pretty small for a vehicle that's basically 15+ feet long, though.
#63 of 1350 Fears & Seats (to bluedevils) by giowa Jan 19, 2001 (4:04 pm)
How can you say you would have no fears? If the vehicle wasn't designed for it, what makes you think some small aftermarket company has taken safety into account? The various car crash sites aren't going to test it. 'cause it wasn't build by manufacturer. In the absence of credible and reliable info on what these seats and seatbelts could do in emergencies, I think someone would have to be willing to take too high a risk. I wouldn't risk my kids!!! Guess that's why you go by bluedevils! Safety is a concern of mine. Just like performance and reliability. I wouldn't compromise on any of them.
#64 of 1350 3rd Row by paisan Jan 19, 2001 (4:15 pm)
Outside the US, the 3rd row of seats is standard on the Trooper. The Littlepassenger's 3rd row has 3 point seat belts.   -mike
#65 of 1350 4H mode in rain by ninajalhe Jan 19, 2001 (4:39 pm)
Thank you all for the informations.   XL-7 is the only 4wheel vehicle I can find which is in my budget with 7 seats. YES, I would love to get the MDX but you know.... money is always the problem.   After market little seats would be good, but something tells me that original 3rd row seat will be better.   As for the 4H mode, I should only use it on snow or heavy rain.... well it seems OK, after all you can't get everything you want with a limited budget.
#66 of 1350 How do you get a baby seat in the middle/2nd row? by ozrod Jan 19, 2001 (4:39 pm)
Anybody see the orientation of the buckle for the middle seat? How does one attach a regular non tether infant seat there with the strange buckle location? Otherwise had a favorable impression of this vehicle but have three children that need to fit in the middle for trips.
#67 of 1350 Suzukis v. Isuzus by paisan Jan 19, 2001 (7:21 pm)
Not to make you all think I don't like the suzukis, I do like em. Suzukis, Kia Sportage, Isuzus, all underated vehicles IMHO. The suzuki is nice cause it has a traditional oriented engine, with rear wheel bias, and a frame, in a small package. On a side, note, i'll bet the little seats as the 3rd row in a trooper would be more comfy than the 3rd row option in the XL7, but again you get a larger package, with poorer fuel economy.   -mike
#68 of 1350 giowa - safety in Trooper by bluedevils Jan 20, 2001 (10:09 am)
Safety, reliability, durability, and value are the primary reasons I have bought 2 Troopers. My first one was totaled-- I t-boned a 98 Cadillac Seville STS that had run a red light. I walked away from this 40mph collision with a stiff neck and a newfound respect for my Trooper's ability to protect me. I bought another Trooper as soon as I could.   As paisan noted, Trooper has a factory-installed third row seat in non-U.S. markets. IIRC, the Little Passenger Seats unit bolts into the factory-provided hardware that's underneath the carpet in the cargo area of all newer Troopers (including U.S. models). That's why I would feel safe carrying people back there.
#69 of 1350 Suzukis - good value by bluedevils Jan 20, 2001 (10:11 am)
Like paisan, I drive a Trooper. Also like paisan, I like the Suzuki products. I strongly considered a four-door Sidekick each of the last 2 times I've ended up buying a Trooper. The Suzuki products seem to be well-built and reliable. Like Trooper, they offer good value and are quite underrated.   I don't hang out in too many SUV forums, but I am participating in this one because I like the Suzuki products and I'm interested to hear more from others about the XL-7 as well as share my own impressions.
#70 of 1350 Accident Avoidance w/ Part-Time 4WD vs. AWD by ogdens Jan 22, 2001 (12:45 pm)
I've read the postings on this already, but I am hoping someone can give me an expanded answer to my question: For on-road use only, does a traditional 4WD system that divides the power equally to all 4 wheels prevent slipping and provide as good control in rain and snow as a more modern AWD system with traction control?   I am really agonizing over this one. I like the price and features of the XL-7, but from what I have read, other AWD SUVs offer better accident avoidance (and thus, safety) than the XL-7 with it's part time 4WD and no traction control.

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