Last post on Nov 29, 2010 at 8:15 PM
You are in the Suzuki XL-7
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Suzuki XL-7, Suzuki Grand Vitara, SUV
#534 of 1355 XL-7 Brake Noise
Apr 02, 2002 (5:42 am)
I'm wondering if any other XL-7 owners have had this situation. This weekend, I began to hear considerable noise from the rear end every time the brakes were applied at low speed. It sounds like metal scraping on metal, very much like the low front pad warning sensors I've had on other cars. I'll be calling the dealer service department on this today. Note that my XL-7 is a 2002 (don't know if they've changed some of the brake components from the 2001 model year).
Phillyguy2 - We've owned our XL-7 Touring about a month now, and absolutely love it. I have 3 kids (16, 13 and 11 years old) and they have room to spread out in the XL-7 that simply isn't available in the Honda or other smaller SUVs. At 1500 miles, we're getting roughly 20-21 mpg, which is better than I expected. As for Consumer Reports, I take what they say with a big grain of salt because they've been knocking Suzuki for years.
Apr 02, 2002 (6:44 am)
You may have picked up a stone or something similar. It happened to me once, many years ago. If your dealer is like mine they will bend over backwards to help.
#536 of 1355 congratulations are in order
Apr 02, 2002 (6:51 am)
I think those of us that are on this thread need to pat ourselves on the back, at least a little. For a vehicle that does not sell a lot we have kept this board alive and have reached the 500 mark. This is like a TV show that reaches 100 episodes, (the number needed for syndication). There are other, more popular vehicles out there that have nowhere the support this one has. Keep up the good work and advice. Congratulations to all.
Apr 02, 2002 (6:54 am)
Glad to see the other GM-Japanese name is alive and kicking. Suzuzu need to stick together to try to keep GM from totally overrunning the quality vehicles that they make!
Apr 02, 2002 (7:17 am)
My wife and I both wanted the flexibility of smaller SUV's. We didn't plan on having 2 brand new vehicles, but after I purchased my XL-7 our daughter totalled my wife's 2000 Subaru Forester. Our insurance covered replacement value, so they gave us a check for $25,000 (an opportunity to buy a new vehicle without a loan). My wife liked our Forester a lot, and would have been happy to get another, but she wanted to see what else was available. We thought the Forester was extremely well built (passenger compartment held up wonderfully after the car went vertical down an embankment, hitting a tree and rolling over). My daughter's only injury was a broken collar bone. We looked at another Forester, and a number of other vehicles. We liked the CR-V best of all of them. Again, I am very happy with my XL-7, but my wife doesn't like it as much as I do. We both find the CR-V to be roomier and more comfortable than the Forester. For the uses you describe I would probably choose the CR-V over the XL-7. I think it has more room then either the Forester or the RAV 4. Cargo capacity is quite good on the CR-V. While not as long as the XL-7, the cargo capacity is much deeper. The XL-7 cargo floor is much higher due to the extra seating.
Finally some comments on my XL-7. I find it to be very well built. Unlike some reviewers I do not find the interior to be cheap looking (I have the limited, but I don't know if that makes much difference). The driver's seat bottoms are short and do not offer enough knee support (about 1 inch longer would help. The vehicle is great to drive. I find it responsive and handles well, and the ride is very comfortable. Rear Air Conditioning and the extra seating is a plus for a vehicle at this price.
The passenger capacity is really six not seven as the middle row middle seat is not suitable because of seatbelt placement. If all 3 rows of seating are used, cargo capacity is extremely limited.
The ability to shift into 4wd lo and high is a great feature for the rare times I would be off road, or for our occassional snow storms. I do disaster response work so that having off road capability is something that I may need to use. My XL-7 has had 0 defects, and I have a lot of confidence in the quality of construction.
Sorry for the long post, but I hope this information is helpful in your decision making process.
#539 of 1355 Driving impressions
Apr 02, 2002 (12:55 pm)
A friend of my daughter owns a Suzuki dealership & he lent me an XL7 LTD. Just got back from a turnpike drive. The wind swayed it a little more than I'm used to on my Pathfinder. Also noticed more imperfections on road. Both not terrible,but noticable. Driver's view good,engine sounds good & responsive, since I don't drive like most teenagers. Seats not quite up to excellence as far as comfort but acceptable. What is very annoying-when I opened the sunroof,a terrible burning odor forced me to close up. I'd have to ask the dealer,unless somebody out there knows about this. Tomorrow I give the car back so I'll let you all know if anything else comes up.
#540 of 1355 Is it new?
Apr 02, 2002 (1:06 pm)
If it's new, you are smelling the undercoating burning off. Subarus are known for this it takes almost 10K miles for the smell to disappate on them.
#541 of 1355 Burning smell
Apr 02, 2002 (1:20 pm)
All of the Suzuki's come with an oil like stuff that is sprayed on the engine to prevent rust while being shipped over seas. It takes a few thousand miles to burn it off completely, maybe that's what you smelled.
As to your CRV vs. XL-7 comparison. I have to agree 100% with what everyone above said. The CRV is more car like and likely to be a bit more comfortable. If you'll never off road and won't need to carry more than four people at a time, I would go with the CRV (for resale, reliability, etc.)
We really wanted a mini suv that was still a real truck at heart. We go down to Hatteras during the summer and drive on the beach. The all-wheel drive vehicles are marginal at best on the sand and you really have to be careful not to get stuck. Also, as others have mentioned, the XL-7 can actually tow a small load, the CRV is really not meant for towing.
Reliability, hard to beat a Honda and I would never say the Suzuki's are better, but I think they are one of the most reliable "other" imports behind Toyota and Honda. Certainly way above Hyundai or Kia.
It is a bit frustrating the lack of support GM gives Suzuki and Isuzu for that matter. We just like to think of our XL-7 as one of the best keep secrets of the mini suv world and appreciate the rarity of them.
Good luck on your choice.
Apr 02, 2002 (3:04 pm)
"We just like to think of our XL-7 as one of the best keep secrets of the mini suv world and appreciate the rarity of them."
That is exactly the quote we have over at the Trooper site! Best kept secret in the med-SUV world!
Apr 03, 2002 (3:30 am)
I also like the fact there are not to many XL-7s on the road. I do get some looks once in awhile since they are not seen that often. However, I want enough of them sold so they keep being imported. I was going to change the oil this weekend but had a honey-do list a mile long so it will have to wait. It is a real pain but since I am running Mobil 1 I only have to do it every 5k.
I took my van in for some service prior to it going our of 3/36 warranty and my Ford dealer gave me a 2002 Explorer XLT with sunroof and leather with 12K on it as a loaner. I must say that my XL-7 is doing better than it is: rattle in the dash(it appears this is a common problem with a fix, but should not be there), the rear suspension bushings give the sound of "old springs" (another common problem with a fix) the sunroof is a little lose and rattles when open and at speed, and a lose drivers window ( you can push it down about an inch after you open it). However, it does have the rear sensor for backing up, puddle lamps, 6 cd changer, side airbags, and a lot more cargo room than ours. However, the sticker is about 33K. All things considered my XL-7 (limited) is still solid as a rock after 10K. My only noise is the first aid kit in the back.
I have seen some adds for after market backup sonar systems. I am going to look into them. With the van and truck they would be nice to have. Has anyone looked into them?