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Suzuki XL-7, Suzuki Grand Vitara, SUV
#393 of 1355 Flat Surface
Dec 05, 2001 (5:29 am)
There is a flap between the seats on the 2002. Yes, you are correct. It appears to be flat, but there is a slight incline.
Also, there appears to be no change in the engineering, to restructure the floor and seat pattern.
I didn't really check the 2nd row seats on the one without the 3rd row. I'll have to flip the seat down to see if it is totaly flat with the rear cargo space.
I'll stop back at Woodbridge Suzuki tomorrow and take a thorough examination. If you have any questions that you need answered, I'll be happy to ask for you. I will be there aprox 8:ooam
Also, on the Vent Visors. I didn't send them back, but they did say that they would take them back. I'll keep them and will probably put them back on when the weather is bad.
#394 of 1355 2002 XL-7
Dec 06, 2001 (9:27 am)
I got a second look at the 2002 XL-7 rear seats.
Here are the findings:
There are no changes to the second row of seats, same tracks, seats, etc. It operates the same as the 2001.
The third row of seats has a minor change. That change being, a flap is added to both sides of the
split seats. The flap is folded simular to a box top. The flap extends in length when its up. When down, it rests to the back of the seat(3rd row).
When the 3rd row seats are folded down to make a flat surface, the flaps are used. Each flap has two straps attached, aprox 6 to 12 inches in length. Each strap has O-rings at the end.
After the seat is in the down position, the two straps are extended to reach the second row of seats, the O-rings fit around the pegs in the head rest on the 2nd row. When in place, the straps and flap create a somewhat flat surface.
It is not exactly flat, but probably can be adjusted somewhat to make a stable support, also providing a much flatter surface than normal. The flaps do not overlap and leaves a very small split between the seats (the two split - 3rd row)seats.
The split is about the size of a cd case.
If a person were to take a piece of carboard and cut a layout of that rear section. They could cut a piece of plywood the exact size of that folded down area. Add two strips of wood underneath the front as supports and a leveling effect; then carpet it or leave it as is. It would make a wonderful storage, or useful section for, groceries,dogs,boxes etc.
Hopefully I have provided a brief description of what I saw.
#395 of 1355 Washer Fluid Question
Dec 06, 2001 (6:37 pm)
Has anybody added blue washer fluid (with antifreeze) in spite of the owner's manual stating that you should only use fluid without antifreeze? My XL-7 came with pink fluid.
#396 of 1355 2001 XL-7 Limited Purcahse Price
Dec 07, 2001 (10:17 am)
What did you pay for your XL-7 Limited?
#397 of 1355 2002 XL-7 Limited MPG Report
Dec 08, 2001 (12:03 pm)
I have only a little over 900 miles on my vehicle so far. But I wanted to report on gas mileage.
17 mpg (straight city stop and go traffic)
25 mpg (straight highway; cruise control 60 mph)
Bottom line: This is dang good for a 6 cylinder pushing a 3700 lb vehicle. It rides smooth and is fairly quiet. Has great pick up and feels good to my passengers. And it sure looks good. It beats the pants off the competition in price/performance and interior space usage.
Other seven seaters in this class costs a heck of a lot more and generally do not get as good gas mileage. By adjusting the front and second row seat, a full sized person like myself, 6.1 and 195 lbs, can sit in the third row with plenty of head room and without banging my knees. Insurance Institute gives the XL-7 it's highest overall rating and therefore insurance cost is a very good value. True, it didn't do well in the 5 mph fender bender test against poles, but 47 other well known modern brands cars also did poorly -- and this is more of a cosmetic issue, not a safety issue. Yes, I would like to see car companies do a better job in this area.
I really believe that Suzuki has a bum rap by having to officially state mpg of 17 - 20. Suzuki must really be hated in the U.S. Well, I know it is by the inaccurate and highly prejudiced statements by Consumer Reports. I stopped buying their magazines in fact. Too many payoffs and not enough fact IMHO. I encougage you to do the same. At the very most, just peruse their magazine on the rack without buying it. They suck and should be taken with a BIG grain of salt.
I don't work for Suzuki in any way. I'm just a happy customer and getting tired of being bullied around by car politics in the U.S.
How much did I pay for my XL7 Limited? I took a 5 year lease at $371 per month, with a residual of $9000 unless I trade it in early for another vehicle of course. Although, I moved it up to $381 for an external paint and interior protection package, as well as road side assistance.
#398 of 1355 2002 XL-7 Limited MPG Cont.
Dec 08, 2001 (1:14 pm)
I forgot to mention that my XL-7 has Bridgestone tires rated at a maximum of 44 lbs. For the above mentioned mpg tests, I inflated the front tires to 36 and the rear tires to 40 lbs. This seems to give a little better roll. I think I'll keep the tire pressures in this category unless I'm towing something, in which case I'd follow the towing instruction suggestions in the manual, including recommended tire pressures.
Dec 10, 2001 (10:28 am)
Hi guys thanks for all the nice posts on this forum, now I finalized XL-7 will be my next buy.
I spot an ad, they are on year end sale for a base model for $16,999 4x4 manual trans. Do you think is a good deal. Any help would be much appreciated!
#400 of 1355 Sounds good to me
Dec 12, 2001 (9:58 am)
That sounds like a fair price. Be sure you'll be OK with a base model. We have a Plus and even wish we had a few of the limited/touring goodies like the fog lights.
I think the '02 base does not have the third row, but if it is an '01, it should.
We paid $20,875 for a Plus 4x4 auto. Coming up on 5,000 miles and everything is tight and proper. Very nice and easy vehicle to drive.
Dec 13, 2001 (6:22 am)
XL-7, was not ignoring you but had to go to Tucson ( I am in VA) on an unexpected trip and did not have access to a computer. I understand about the rear seats. thanks for the info. The solution leaves some gaps and with my dogs I can not afford gaps so I came up with my own solution. Take Care
#402 of 1355 Re: Flat Seats/XL-7
Dec 13, 2001 (4:21 pm)
Just curious what you came up with as your own solution to the seat gap issue. Anything you wish to share? Thanks.